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TarkovRatKing t1_iu3w5iu wrote

Good, governments who actively try to topple the West for their own tyranical purposes and hatred have no business enjoying from Western ammeneties and events.

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thebluehotel t1_iu6llpr wrote

What about when it’s Western governments doing the toppling? Because that’s precisely why Iran is the way it is now.

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zloykrolik t1_iu6onqn wrote

I think western gov'ts are barred from their ceremonies.

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TarkovRatKing t1_iu6or9i wrote

Maybe that is beacause the Iranian government decides to murder young people over religious fanatism. But sure, its the US fault.

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RemyLavigne t1_iu3xoez wrote

Let's go with "Governments better than Iran, Russia, Belarus, and China" because... as much as I love my country.... our gov can be kinda fucked...

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nonono33345 t1_iu5mz4g wrote

It always seems like comments with ellipses and emojis have no fricken idea what they're talking about, yet exhume this weird aura of adolescent superiority.

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dancingteam t1_iu4810i wrote

Why is China related in this context?

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CarpeNoctome t1_iu4qlif wrote

genocide, illegal “police stations” in foreign countries, extreme suppression of the masses, constantly threatening a neighboring country with war, authoritarian police state, debt trapping more impoverished countries than i care to count, illegal occupation of large swaths of land and people… not the greatest place to be giving awards for greatness

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HumorSuspicious6183 t1_iu62ih7 wrote

US has committed all of the things you listed. Genocide, check. Illegal police stations (CIA black sites), check. Extreme suppression of the masses, check. Constantly threatening countries with war, check. Authoritarian police state, check. Debt trapping countries, check. Illegal occupation, check.

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snake_w_arms t1_iu4y3ze wrote

You realize everything you just said about China is also true for the US?

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CarpeNoctome t1_iu4yk4c wrote

i mean if that’s what you have to tell yourself, then sure

the us has done and currently does a lot of bad things, but it literally cannot compare the atrocities committed by the chinese government. it’s an insult to anyone in the western sphere of influence to say so, and i think you knew that

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snake_w_arms t1_iu50jjj wrote

The US has military stations all over the globe, why is it OK for the US but not China? The US suppresses information to the masses. Constantly threatening neighboring countries, ask Cuba how they’ve been treated by the US. The US is an authoritarian police state. Debt trapping countries, those are conveniently called “sanctions” by the US. Illegal occupation, the US just invaded Haiti for no reason.

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CarpeNoctome t1_iu51o6w wrote

the us is either asked or asks to install military bases, and generally it’s for the good of both countries. china uses those stations as a way to pressure and scare chinese expats to still follow chinese laws despite not living there anymore.

the united states suppresses what it needs to to the masses, as i can research any wrong doing, any war crime, any broken internationals laws, all legally and for free. you can’t do that in a lot of countries.

the us just handed cuba several million dollars in response to the damage caused by hurricane ian. you’re so well versed in caribbean happenings, you should know that.

the us has a problem with police brutality, to the point where i’ve heard red blooded republican conservatives admit it. we know it’s an issue, but it’s ingrained culturally into police, it’s not policy to shoot black people.

do sanctions against north korea, iran, russia, belarus, myanmar, venezuela, and so on not seem justified to you? countries that are either mass killing their own people, constantly threatening invasion, or actively nonchalantly bragging about how they can end the world?

and lastly, this is the absolute most stupid talking point i’ve heard come up recently. haiti is currently a chaotic hellhole run by cartels, gangs, and criminal syndicates. the government asked for a un, not us, but un intervention. would you consider the chinese un peacekeepers abandoning their post in sudan to be an invasion?

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CarpeNoctome t1_iu5drvj wrote

not gonna argue with someone who frequently defends china. you are an inherently bad person for doing so

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who_said_I_am_an_emu t1_iu59397 wrote

>the US just invaded Haiti for no reason.

Yes no reason. No reason whatsoever. Literally nothing at all is going on there at this moment.

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