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--Gungnir-- t1_iugnk0b wrote

The information about this kind of thing coming out of Iran just keeps getting worse.

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Culverin t1_iuhc2d3 wrote

I'm hoping the masses turn the corner to change a protest into a revolution

I'm rooting for the Iranian people.

I don't think kid gloves is going to work to change the mind of fundamentalist religious zealots. Fingers crossed they can come to the same conclusion.

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[deleted] t1_iui4rky wrote

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kaisadilla_ t1_iuiggxe wrote

Nah, if they had decency, they'd join the protests. But then again, if they had decency, they wouldn't have made it this far.

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dai_rip t1_iui66tm wrote

Like last time the group holding the most ak47s will hijack it

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Tatar_Kulchik t1_iui7pm8 wrote

insh'Allah

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Culverin t1_iuiu349 wrote

>insh'Allah

"if Allah wills"?

Seriously? That's your response?

Religious zealot asshats are a core source of the problem.

Sure, we can debate whether God exists or not.

But for somebody to claim their actions are acting in his will? Alright, show me the receipts. This has been and is an ongoing major contributor to the history of violence of mankind. This is why the Middle East is a total shit show.

Fantasy and fiction over reality.

It seems like the Iranian people are saying "I don't care what God wills, this is what I will". Until he descends from his hypocritical throne in the heavens, that's a good message to me.

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Warhawk137 t1_iuixzg6 wrote

It's more appropriately translated as "god willing" in the manner it's used. You say it about something you hope will happen.

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Culverin t1_iuj9tlt wrote

"in the manner it's used" is the problem, the religion is baked into the culture.

It's like saying "god bless you". Sure that's culture. But the foundations where it comes from brings with it that women have less rights.

At the core, the police and the religious olds don't match the basic human rights the rest of us accept as a baseline. Culture is not an excuse. Religion is being an enabler of abuse is even worse.

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Warhawk137 t1_iuja5pt wrote

It's just a turn of phrase. Do you seriously go on a diatribe about human rights when someone says "god bless you"? Sneezing in public sounds like a miserable experience then.

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Big_Tujunga t1_iujgq9c wrote

They seem to have missed the part where it translates to 'God willing' which is something we say all the time. It's almost like the religion is baked into our culture, too.

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Tatar_Kulchik t1_iuixbr0 wrote

Yes, God willing, this will be the end of the current Iranian regime

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Tatar_Kulchik t1_iuj0s38 wrote

Do you get upset when people use the phrase 'Thank God!' when they have massive relief about something?

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Culverin t1_iujac8p wrote

Do you get upset when somebody expects facts and evidence when people speak or make claims?

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kaisadilla_ t1_iuigdb0 wrote

How many more kids does the Ayatollah have to murder for us to realize that his religious beliefs are right?

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Ilikehoodies22 t1_iujd2kp wrote

Stuff like this happens everywhere. The western media is just high lighting stuff and making it known to you and me so we can hate Iran and not mind a war. It’s all conditioning.

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Harsimaja t1_iuk8z3i wrote

Yeah that’s right, every country murders children for showing their hair. Iran is no less democratic than democracies, etc. etc.

Shove off with the ‘enlightened’ whataboutist moral equivalences. You’re not more nuanced, just more simplistic in a smarmier way.

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