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Stye88 t1_iud85de wrote

Love how the whole thread is random nationalities telling where Poland should do its shopping. As the only Pole in this thread so far - we'll do them wherever we damn please. And it most likely isn't going to be France or Germany when it comes to national security like weapons or energy.

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Drak_is_Right t1_iuep8ln wrote

Brave of you to try and get the new US designs working at-cost.

Granted, France isnt doing any better. Not sure on Japan or Germany. Russia is obviously a no-go.

Nuclear is the right thing to do, but it will take an unknown time before these new generation ones start getting built at the expected price.

Regardless of whom you get it from, glad to see Poland reducing its future need to import natural gas or burn coal.

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nick1812216 t1_iudmx97 wrote

The US doesn’t really have a strong nuclear track record. I feel like France or Germany or Japan have way more nuclear experience?

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tarrach t1_iudon94 wrote

The US had 92 operational nuclear reactors in 2021. That's the same amount as Japan, Germany and France put together.

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nick1812216 t1_iudouoc wrote

Wow, really? Omg you just blew my mind stranger. I always assumed just france or germany or japan individually would have way more than is. I thought 3-mile island pretty much ended the US civilian nuclear industry

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Korith_Eaglecry t1_iudv6if wrote

3 mile island is an overblown disaster that hasn't had any observable impacts. It was mostly the media doing what the media has always done. Make a mountain out of a mole hill.

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nick1812216 t1_iudw4e3 wrote

That’s kind of what i thought too, but i watched that 3-mile island documentary on netflix and it changed my view of the accident. I’m pro nuclear but 3-mile island imho was a disaster and highlighted engineering/operational incompetence in the American nuclear industry and the regulatory body and private operator really botched the PR. I think if they’d been more honest with the public about the gravity of the incident there would be more public trust in nuclear and maybe the industry would have weathered the crisis better.

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corytheidiot t1_iue5sg3 wrote

Haven't see the Netflix one, but I enjoyed this YouTube video. I'm case anyone is looking for some content.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=cL9PsCLJpAA

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nick1812216 t1_iue5z9l wrote

Thanks! I’ll check it out

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ShopObjective t1_iufr5hr wrote

So 1 accident in 1979 and suddenly the US is incapable of managing nuclear reactors? (which we invented)

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ProbablyDrunk303 t1_iudq2sb wrote

The US probably has more nuclear reactors than any of those countries and all of our subs and aircraft carriers are... nuclear powered. "US doesn't really have a strong nuclear track record" lmfao. The US has more nuclear experience than anyone in the world

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Stye88 t1_iudobq6 wrote

Japan would be a nice choice too, but the logistics probably would be an issue. Germany/France are out of question for national security, which is more important than cost of potential price difference.

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nick1812216 t1_iudpb7k wrote

I understand there are many instances in the past pf France and prussia and germany invading and partitioning and betraying poland, but now with poland in the EU and NATO, Poland is doubly allied with France and Germany. Why is it still a security concern to partner with them in building a nuclear reactor?

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Stye88 t1_iudubdg wrote

Let's imagine a situation Ukraine is facing where Russia is bombing electric plants. If France/Germany built it and say controlled its operation, Poland could suddenly hear they're shutting it off for security, blacking out the country in the middle of a war. The decision making of strategic assets must lay exclusively in the country possessing them, or be built by a country without an interest in which conditions it's being used. That's only one example, multiple more security concerns are there as well.

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yokemhard t1_iue1loo wrote

Ah my man, so genuinely uninformed that it's amazing.

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