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bertiebasit t1_ix3ffle wrote

Do they need to. I thought that the Americans had set the precedent in Pakistan.

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CheesecakeMedium8500 t1_ix3gvdv wrote

Al qaeda is a terrorist organization. We killed their leader whom Pakistan had no business harboring. Kurds are not terrorists. They are in their ancestral territory. This is nothing like Bin Laden. Take your bullshit elsewhere.

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bertiebasit t1_ix3kpv9 wrote

It’s a question around sovereignty. No need to get so abusive.

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CheesecakeMedium8500 t1_ix3t42y wrote

No it’s not a question of sovereignty. It’s cheap whataboutism. Don’t backtrack now. There is no question that is a violation of sovereignty to conduct a strike inside someone else’s borders. The issue is whether or not that violation is justified. In the case of going after the most wanted man on the planet, whose presence Pakistan has no good excuse for not knowing, that’s justified. In the case of a displaced ethnic group whose fighting to not be genocided, and who’s only crime is being near the Turkish border, that is NOT justified.

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bertiebasit t1_ix3tes9 wrote

The principle being discussed was sovereignty. The reason is irrelevant.

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CheesecakeMedium8500 t1_ix3uh1x wrote

It’s cheap whataboutism. There is no question that is a violation of sovereignty to conduct a strike inside someone else’s borders. The issue is whether or not that violation is justified.

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bertiebasit t1_ix4h3l1 wrote

Nonsense. Your trying to shoehorn your sympathy into a generic question.

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CheesecakeMedium8500 t1_ix4i1ok wrote

What is the question? Was their sovereignty violated in both cases? Who’s asking that question? Who is of the mind that nobody’s sovereignty was violated? Nobody. That’s why it’s obvious that your only goal is cheap whataboutism.

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bertiebasit t1_ix4ipse wrote

It was a rhetorical question with a statement. You tried to shoehorn an argument based on your sympathies. It’s irrelevant. Stop getting so hostile about it.

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CheesecakeMedium8500 t1_ix4o9kc wrote

A rhetorical question meant to make what point? To attempt it make the Us look hypocritical for criticizing turkey here.

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bertiebasit t1_ix51im6 wrote

Take a walk, you’re overthinking

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CheesecakeMedium8500 t1_ix5448s wrote

It’s a very simple question you can’t answer. A rhetorical question meant to make what point? To attempt it make the Us look hypocritical for criticizing turkey here.

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bertiebasit t1_ix5appy wrote

That the US had set a precedent.

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CheesecakeMedium8500 t1_ix5kmlk wrote

…Which is what my point was all about. Just because both are instances of invading sovereign territory doesn’t mean they’re comparable at all.

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BirdlawIsBestLaw t1_ix4s6vz wrote

>You tried to shoehorn an argument based on your sympathies.

That is not a valid criticism or rounds to dismiss his argument. You are avoiding his distinction because it destroys your argument.

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