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jubza t1_iy3nm91 wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Türkiye, Sweden, Finland to discuss NATO bids in Bucharest by Zhukov-74

Türkiye is far more important than the other two combined

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monkeygoneape t1_iy4f3d0 wrote

As important as their position is, a nato base in Helsinki basically turns st Petersburg into a front line

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jubza t1_iy4fiw8 wrote

If you're focus is on Russia then yes it's quite important but still not as important as holding the Black Sea.

Plus, Turkey is the entry point to Africa and Asia

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monkeygoneape t1_iy4g31k wrote

Like I said, wasn't downplaying turkey's geographical location, but with Russia being the aggressor at the moment, that does make them the bigger threat at the moment so being able to be in striking distance of one of their most important urban centres shouldn't be downplayed either, and doesn't the Suez kind of negate the black sea if we're talking shipping specifically?

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PublicFurryAccount t1_iy44yjt wrote

Probably not, no.

Controlling entrance to the Black Sea hasn't really been relevant since the 1980s because the Aegean is just as much a shooting gallery for modern ASMs and Turkey's ability to actually accomplish that control is questionable against any actual adversary, including Russia.

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DasKleineFerkell t1_iy3o154 wrote

Strategically speaking, turkeys only value is a border to Syria (which they've been abusing) amd the Bosporus...

Both easy problems to solve... erdogan isn't worth it...

In light of revolts in Iran and china... if I was emperor erdogan I would be worried

Edit , edit... unless you're referring to Turkeys textile business.... you can replace e that ez as pie

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tilker17 t1_iy3p970 wrote

This might be the shallowest politic analysis I've seen for a while.

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Copeshit t1_iy448z1 wrote

> Strategically speaking, turkeys only value is a border to Syria

redditors lmao

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CarpeNoctome t1_iy3zr0j wrote

you seem to be oblivious to the fact that turkey controls the most strategic city in the world

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