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Pilantrologo t1_j2amdwi wrote

There's such an abyss between the current and the next government.

What is essentially a kakistocracy, will soon be replaced by a functioning, near-meritocratic government.

I thank every single Brazilian citizen who contributed for this outcome. The light at the end of the tunnel is so very close now.

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Biscoito_Gatinho t1_j2avda3 wrote

A lot of competent women too. Love to see it đŸ„șđŸ˜­đŸ„°

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Pilantrologo t1_j2awocp wrote

In key positions/areas nonetheless! Sports, Environment, Development, Culture, Banco do Brasil...

Chapeau, really.

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Orsick t1_j2d3eb0 wrote

Lol, Lula's ministers are far from meritocratic, it's mostly political nominations.

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Pilantrologo t1_j2d5ipf wrote

Ok. Care to point to nominated people who are not qualified for the job ?

Edit : To those who find annoying asking a redditor to back his statement : Grow up.

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ThiagoBaisch t1_j2d66rz wrote

yes, the son of Renan Calheiros for example.

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Pilantrologo t1_j2d6rh6 wrote

I'll give you that one...

However, it would appear that the road network in Alagoas has improved significantly during his term as governor.

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ThaneKyrell t1_j2d91er wrote

Also Haddad, Alckmin, Tebet... like, virtually all ministers in important positions are appointees. Which, to be fair, is ok. Virtually any president needs support from Congress. But don't pretend like most of Lula's future ministers aren't there because of politics.

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pauloh1998 t1_j2df0sn wrote

Haddad actually has a Master's Degree in Economics, so he's not that far away from his position.

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Orsick t1_j2dcsez wrote

Luciana Santos - science and technology - career politician condemned for administrative dishonest, but she's from PCdoB.

Geraldo Alckmin - he might've been better in other positions.

Tebet - planning - Carter politician being paid for the support in the second roun

Renan filho??? - transport - come on

Jader filho - Cities - it's even hard to find something about him other than his filliantion to MDB

Juscelino Filho - communication - never even hold a secretary position in his career, but hey Lula need some pull with centrĂŁo ( btw this guy's voted for Filma impeachment and against Temer's investigation)

Daniela do Waguinho - tourism - a very short political carreta, she as secretary of something completely unrelated to tourism for a year though.

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ThaneKyrell t1_j2d8xan wrote

This is not true at all. Most of Lula's ministers are political appointees. To be clear: I voted for Lula, and having ministers by chosen by politics is fairly common here, and important to make sure that Lula can govern with support from Congress. But let's not pretend like all ministers are there because of merit. Haddad, Alckmin, Renan Filho, Tebet and the ministers from UniĂŁo Brasil for example... they are there because of politics. Not because they are the best choices

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Pilantrologo t1_j2dcsgk wrote

> they are there because of politics. Not because they are the best choices

And I never said they were the best choices. Meritocracy isn't about nominating the crĂšme de la crĂšme from each area. It's about choice based on achievement and ability.

Of course politics play a role. But what is about to happen is far, pretty fucking far from what Bolsonaro did to the Ministries of Foreign Affairs, Family, Education and Environment, just to name a few.

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ThaneKyrell t1_j2dk0l0 wrote

I agree that his ministers are WAY better than Bolsonaro's ministers. However, they are not the best possible choices, and some of them are outright bad. Let's not pretend like Lula has only chosen the best. Haddad for example is a terrible name for the economics minister, and he was only chosen because Lula and the Worker's Party wants him as a successor. Most economists didn't like him being chosen at all (personally, I think Haddad should've been education minister)

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Existing_Dot_8981 t1_j2ejis9 wrote

LMAO what a joke! Lula was imprisoned for corruption and his lefty ideology has never worked and is specially damaging in 3rd world countries like Brazil. Americans are clueless about foreign politics

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Pilantrologo t1_j2ex5hi wrote

You might want to delete this. I'm as Brazilian as they come and I know pretty well what I'm talking about.

Did you even bother to check my username?

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lumach68 t1_j2f18r8 wrote

I’m an American, so I won’t pretend to understand the political system in Brazil very well but I wanted to see if he was a downvote karma whore or if he had any penchant for going off about Lula or bad mouthing the US and I’m not sure if he even is Brazilian himself. He posts very frequently in Chilean and Peruvian subreddits, and comments in Spanish and not Portuguese. Funny that he judges Americans for not knowing Brazilian politics when he isn’t even Brazilian himself and also apparently doesn’t know.

Edit: misused a word

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Existing_Dot_8981 t1_j2fc125 wrote

Describe Lulas socialist model and tell me how it will work, considering it has been a complete failure in south america. I have all of those downvotes from lefties like u.

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lumach68 t1_j2fkp1p wrote

I can’t tell you since as I stated in the comment I do not know Brazilian politics and as such did not comment on any of it. I said based on you accusing another Brazilian of being an American, and uninformed, I wanted to see if you were farming downvotes, and was left with what I described above. I’m not saying you’re not Brazilian, as you could be of the 4% of Spanish speaking Brazilians, what I was saying was you were quick to accuse another Brazilian of being “clueless” about their own politics and it seemed likely you were the foreigner making false claims about another’s political system. If I’m wrong then I apologize, if not then you know already.

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Existing_Dot_8981 t1_j2fblq8 wrote

lol if you are brazilian and voted for that corrupt commie, your iq must be sub 70. Have you seen the other countries with the same socialist model. Complete failure, Argentina, Venezuela, Bolivia... use your brain makakito

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Pilantrologo t1_j2fmas5 wrote

Yeah, right... I don't know if you've learned about the economic growth and socioeconomic development Brazil enjoyed during the two presidential terms of Luis Inacio... I'm fairly certain you didn't, and likely don't care.

In any case, you should go out, make some friends, get a companion and do something more productive. Being unkind online won't get you anywhere.

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