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AmeriToast t1_j1q6bdj wrote

If Russia was not in such a bad state, negotiating would not be on the table.

A common negotiation tactic is to ask for everything you want and to negotiate it down from there. Doesn't mean they will get anything. Also, just because Russia is willing to negotiate doesn't mean Ukraine will at the moment.

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KiwasiGames t1_j1t13jk wrote

Ukraine doesn’t really matter in the negotiations. If the west stops providing Ukraine weapons and ends sanctions on Russia, Russia will win (eventually).

Now this is not going to happen. But it’s worth keeping straight who has the power in these plays.

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