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degotoga t1_j2avu2k wrote

I’ll never understand why so many people support the deportation of draft dodgers

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No-Ask7043 t1_j2b0k6p wrote

He’s a fucking Russia. spy who fled his obligations of his highly privileged position, he’s not a draft dogger avoiding conscription on humanitarian or ethical reasons. Live by the sword die by the sword,

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degotoga t1_j2b3zw3 wrote

You either read a different article than I did or you’re inventing quite a lot. The article says that the Russian government pressured Kazakstan to return him

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falconzord t1_j2bsx0j wrote

Doesn't Kazakhstan have an open border with Russia? What are the grounds for his deportation?

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degotoga t1_j2bwbg5 wrote

> Zhilin had to cross the border illegally because as an FSB officer he was not allowed to leave the country. He asked for political asylum in Kazakhstan, but his request was rejected and he was arrested.

> Zhovtis believes that Kazakhstan was under pressure to extradite Zhilin to Russia and described it as a “sad situation,” implying that Zhilin is being "handed over simply to die."

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falconzord t1_j2bx53e wrote

I read the article, but I don't understand why Kazakhstan is bending here, it was illegal from the Russian perspective, not Kazakh.

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mighty_worrier t1_j2d2ize wrote

Because if you aren't allowed to cross the border at a checkpoint you cross elsewhere illegally thereby violating the law in both countries.

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Circle_Trigonist t1_j2e21rz wrote

So you're saying the preferable outcome for Ukraine is for every member of Russia's security service to keep swinging swords at Ukrainians rather than have them avoid doing that?

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Shurqeh t1_j2cytha wrote

He might not be a spy.

Novaya Gazeta has him listed as being in the FGS not the FSB, which either makes him some politicians meat shield or the guy carrying the nuclear briefcase

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PeaWordly4381 t1_j2b1nlz wrote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis

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WikiSummarizerBot t1_j2b1p5m wrote

Just-world hypothesis

>The just-world hypothesis or just-world fallacy is the cognitive bias that assumes that "people get what they deserve" – that actions will have morally fair and fitting consequences for the actor. For example, the assumptions that noble actions will eventually be rewarded and evil actions will eventually be punished fall under this hypothesis. In other words, the just-world hypothesis is the tendency to attribute consequences to—or expect consequences as the result of— either a universal force that restores moral balance or a universal connection between the nature of actions and their results.

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taoyx t1_j2dgwbz wrote

To make it believable you need to add reincarnation to the package.

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PelicanJack t1_j2btqqp wrote

Acolytes of Mussolini's philosophy worship imperialism.

Refusing to be a pawn in someone else's war is an affront to their very identity.

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Yesnoman1994 t1_j2azl93 wrote

Not all but this guy deserves to be fertilizer in Ukraine

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degotoga t1_j2b25iv wrote

Why?

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RaiTheSly t1_j2bcwoc wrote

Because he serves in the FSB.

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Aconite_72 t1_j2d9aoq wrote

This guy will be handed a gun. And before he dies, there’s a chance that he could take out a Ukrainian.

Why don’t you think of that?

Let him stay the fuck home. He’s a rat bastard but the fewer Russian there is in Ukraine, the better.

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Shurqeh t1_j2cyx85 wrote

or that is a typo and he's actually in the FGS and Russia just has too many three letter organizations with an F and an S in it for the West to keep track of.

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drNovikov t1_j2d0nf0 wrote

Lots of accounts on Reddit may be actually bots. Others are what KGB called "useful idiots".

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