Submitted by IndependentTHNKR t3_zuxbcg in worldnews
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Forsmormor t1_j1n0023 wrote
So what are they supposed to do then, if they want to enter NATO?
New-Statistician-686 t1_j1n12iz wrote
Just chill and wait. Sweden would be a valuable addition for Nato. Let the other members put pressure on Turkey. There's no panic for Sweden to join. Erdogan is probable just holding out for large enough of a pay day. His economy is failing with 85% inflation. To compromise on your democratic principles with egomaniac autocrats is just losing game. They will just come with more demands.
Forsmormor t1_j1nhgah wrote
Sweden applied to NATO because of the threats from Russia, so the "no panic to join" argument doesn't apply.
Narpity t1_j1nzsk4 wrote
Sweden and Finland both already have independent defense agreements with the US and UK so it wouldn’t trigger all of NATO but most of it
New-Statistician-686 t1_j1nlli5 wrote
Do you really see Russia invading anyone else soon with the mess they got in Ukraine?
Moranic t1_j1nz3o0 wrote
You don't want to start accession talks once Russia is ready to invade, you want to do so now.
New-Statistician-686 t1_j1pagu4 wrote
Well, they have started accession talks, and 29/30 nato members will let them in.
Sweden applied to join relatively early in the war before they really could see how much Russia fucked up and misjudged Ukraine. To seriously invade another nation, Russia needs to finish the war in Ukraine and rebuild their armed forces over a decade or so.
Turkeys demand are unreasonable, and Sweden can't in all seriousness just accept them.
Megalomanizac t1_j1nal9a wrote
Sweden could also simply just shuffle their feet, say yes and once they’re in they just slowly “forget” about the agreement.
Forsmormor t1_j1nhv5c wrote
That's true, but turkey will probably demand for it to happen before the vote to join nato? Not sure how the timings line up. Couldn't Sweden just say they won't do anything any other nato member wouldn't do? Turkey would not be able to play these games with another member.
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XenonJFt t1_j1nly0u wrote
Some kurd is definetly going overboard
wiggypiggyziggyzaggy t1_j1lvgkx wrote
Wtf dude talked with a mf turkey!
New-Statistician-686 t1_j1mymx5 wrote
Stop sucking up to Erdogan, there's no way they can get out of that with their democracy and honor intact. Erdogan has no concept of an independent judicial system. He just wants his political opposition extradited.