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ohokayiguess1 t1_j18n3nk wrote

You spent 3 paragrpahs to say "US Hypocrites." Why don't you articulate the reasoning you feel they're being hypocritical in this situation and provide some analysis that backs the idea that the US is wrong in this situation?

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recockulous-too t1_j19b9al wrote

My Opinion is I feel the US is correct, the US steel industry has been decimated by low cost imports from other areas of the world. They can’t compete. Especially in wages and energy costs. The tariffs reverse this. So imagine if all or most of the steel becomes imported and therefore shutters the US steel industry. In case of War time how long would it take to restart and train the employees needed to supply domestically if imported steel becomes scarce or blocked. This is why I think this is a national security issue.

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Soytaco t1_j19fzyf wrote

Well they could subsidize the industry directly instead of using tariffs.

Another reason it's worth having the production here is environmental. Less shipping, probably less pollution from our production then in cheaper countries, and hopefully we'll also end up toward the front of the pack in moving to green steel.

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recockulous-too t1_j1a28iz wrote

Yes I agree with your other reason but it wouldn’t be a National security reason.

Subsidizing the steel industry is the same as tariffs as far as the WTO is concerned. But instead of the tax payers paying for it, it would be by companies and end users of the steel and aluminum. You can say that the consumer ultimately pays the same but the main difference is that the consumer has a choice whether or not to use it without increasing national debt.

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RoboNerdOK t1_j19c63h wrote

The US is in the right here, though I think the implementation was done poorly. It should have been a gradual increase in tariffs to allow industry time to adapt. We basically protected ourselves against shortages of critical materials by smashing the supply chain with a sledgehammer.

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Codyfucksticks t1_j1egb5s wrote

Feel free to provide some analysis the US is in the right

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ohokayiguess1 t1_j1eh5nd wrote

Why? I didn't make a statement alluding to that. Reading is fundamental, friend.

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ausnee t1_j1bo39k wrote

Tankies don't ever justify their opinions, they just stir up shit and leave everyone else to argue about it.

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DifferenceThat8887 t1_j1cd5km wrote

This is not a 'tankie' opinion its an accurate criticism of US international political strategy.

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ausnee t1_j1cdg85 wrote

It's a half assed take that ignores the facts or reality of the situation, just for a chance to criticize the US. Just like every single other moron tankie opinion. Join them if you want.

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DifferenceThat8887 t1_j1cdy4b wrote

Some the best international relations specialists, who are far from anti-American, have been making this criticism of the USA for decades.

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ausnee t1_j1cef5m wrote

And tankies have been parroting their idiotic takes for just as long.

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