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rafdotcom t1_j5j2r7t wrote

Reply to comment by Seeker_Of_Knowledge- in Nearly 220 million people in Pakistan without power after countrywide outage | CNN Business by calbert1735

We in South Africa are heading that way. Currently up to 10h a day without electricity

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DemonPoro t1_j5jlivi wrote

Hello from Ukraine. Can we join the club? Similar situation 6-10h without electricity per day.

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rafdotcom t1_j5jnq21 wrote

Sorry that you joined, but yours is no fault of own, seems like the Russians had a part to play in you joining our club

Our government created the mess we in. Like they knew about it and did nothing significant to alter course.. headed right into .. now we just another failed state

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Kidog1_9 t1_j5k237c wrote

Somehow, you described what happened in Sri Lanka with near-perfect accuracy. Edit : and what's happening in Pakistan

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Icy_Tomatillo2699 t1_j5lh6g7 wrote

A political and constitutional crisis emerged in Pakistan from, 3 April 2022 to 10 April 2022 when, National Assembly's Deputy Speaker Qasim Khan Suri dismissed a no-confidence motion against Prime Minister Imran Khan during a session in which it was expected to be taken up for a vote, alleging that a foreign country's involvement in the regime change was contradictory to Article 5 of the Constitution of Pakistan.[1] Moments later, Khan stated in a televised address that he had advised President Arif Alvi to dissolve the National Assembly. Alvi complied with Khan's advice under Article 58 of the constitution. This resulted in the Supreme Court of Pakistan (SCP) taking a suo moto notice of the ongoing situation, creating a constitutional crisis, as effectively, Imran Khan led a constitutional coup.Four days later, the SCP ruled that the dismissal of the no-confidence motion, the prorogation of the National Assembly, the advice from Imran Khan to President Arif Alvi to dissolve the National Assembly, and the subsequent dissolution of the National Assembly were unconstitutional, and overturned these actions in a 5-0 vote. The Supreme Court further held that the National Assembly had not been prorogued and had to be reconvened by the speaker immediately and no later than 10:30 a.m. on 9 April 2022.

On 9 April, the National Assembly was reconvened, however the motion was not immediately put to a vote. The session went on all day but the voting did not begin. Shortly before midnight, the speaker and the deputy speaker both resigned.

Shortly after midnight on 10 April, the National Assembly voted and passed the no-confidence motion with 174 votes, a majority, removing Khan from office,and making him the first prime minister in Pakistan to be removed from office through a no-confidence motion.

And after that it was a literal war between the current government and the people because almost everyone liked khan's government.

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soulhot t1_j5k34z7 wrote

I genuinely am sorry for the South African people because they had such high hopes when Mandela was freed and its so sad to see what’s happening.

I just realised it sounds like I don’t think it’s terrible in other countries.. I didn’t mean it that way.. it’s tragic for all people’s in this day and age. Basic human rights, safety and expectations should be every governments first concern.

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majortung t1_j5mpm6r wrote

In Durham, the locals were looting Indian shops and went on rampage attacking Indians.

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69_queefs_per_sec t1_j5jqa6o wrote

Fucking hell, and I got mad when the power went out for 30 minutes yesterday in Bangalore (there's a diesel generator so honestly it wasn't even an issue). I can't imagine life in SA. Such a beautiful country deserves better.

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ExchangeKooky8166 t1_j5k3p8a wrote

South Africa is that way because the African National Congress has been laughably corrupt and incompetent since Mandela left office in 1999.

Tragic tale of a country. Without Mandela, South Africa would have probably collapsed economically and then into an awful civil war. However, there was no strong leader after him to keep the economic and social progress that was gained from 1995-2007.

No, this isn't apartheid apologism. The National Party were just as shitty and apartheid is responsible for many long-term social issues in South Africa. The ANC just make it worse.

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Speculawyer t1_j5kojc7 wrote

Eskom is a mess. It is so coal dependent and coal is expensive. But they don't seem to have the money or willpower to switch from coal to solar PV and wind.

And now I presume a lot of wealthy people are switching to battery backed solar PV so you get the utility death spiral.

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RansomStark78 t1_j5lj2fb wrote

Everything else you mentioned costs more per kwh than coal

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RansomStark78 t1_j5lplc1 wrote

Link to a article that does not factor in USA specific subsides

I don't think rsa gets us money as subsides

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Speculawyer t1_j5ls9vi wrote

This article covers UNSUBSIDIZED prices (see first graph). When subsidized, it is so cheap that it causes existing plants to close down (second graph).

https://www.lazard.com/perspective/levelized-cost-of-energy-levelized-cost-of-storage-and-levelized-cost-of-hydrogen/

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RansomStark78 t1_j5lvezo wrote

You mention that wealthy rsa citizens are switching to solar and t his will lead to failure of the national power producer

I googled there are only 400 000 za citizens that make above 1 000 000 zar as per za tax stat

1000000 at xe rate is approx 60 000 usd

There are approx 60-80 mil ppl in rsa

How does 400 000 (possibly half that in number households given that higher in comers earners marry other higher incomes earners)

Result in a income deficit enough to cause the power utility to go into red

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RansomStark78 t1_j5lx9qa wrote

A 15 min google search

Za current renewables are at r 2,02 kwh ( 2012)

15 year life span

but customers are paying r1, 62per kwh

So coal must be cheaper than renewables

Also most heavy users are in the north most energy renewables are in the south

Za do not have transmission capacity to take the power to the north so having more renewables will not help

Apparently transmission capacity is at 100% in the south

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NofksgivnabtLIFE t1_j5j9cqq wrote

Bless you folk. Fuck the systems of oppression no mater where we all are from. Basic human rights are deserved by ALL!

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TheOwlDemonStolas t1_j5k2i1g wrote

Wait, you are heading that way? Like, it get's worse? Shouldn't it be the reverse? What's the reason for this.

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rafdotcom t1_j5kb2p2 wrote

Basically government policies and not educating its population.. after 30 years the cracks are showing. We have massive urban decay in our major population centres and no maintenance done on critical infrastructure.. Where I reside each day without electricity means the water supply is affected and we without water almost every time the power goes out.. the power goes out every few hours :(

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AmeriToast t1_j5m542e wrote

Man that does suck. I still remember when everyone was talking about how south Africa was on its way towards becoming an economic powerhouse in Africa.

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