Submitted by TheGuvnor247 t3_10pgmfn in worldnews
damo_w15 t1_j6m0dov wrote
Reply to comment by Upbeat_Lingonberry18 in Australia and France announce joint plan to supply Ukraine with artillery shells by TheGuvnor247
At the end of the day, nuclear submarines are much more suited to future warfare and the types of seas surrounding Australia.
It might not be a "fun" subject, but better to be fully prepared with the right equipment before any future conflicts arise, rather than figuring it out only when the danger becomes apparent.
Contagious_Cure t1_j6m6t6w wrote
The French also have nuclear subs and also submitted tenders for nuclear subs. Time will tell if the AUKUS deal delivers. I think there's already some delays. But Scomo's biggest fuck up is in diplomacy, apparently he didn't even have the balls to call Macron to tell him lol.
thevalid t1_j6mc7da wrote
French boats need to be refueled every 6-8 years and can only be refueled in France. i'm sure you can understand why this would never be workable.
oakpope t1_j6nmycp wrote
It's 10 years.
BloodyChrome t1_j6mix50 wrote
The French nuclear subs are shit. The diesel subs also were behind schedule and over budget.
Christopher135MPS t1_j6m8w1u wrote
Sure, but one of the reasons the French subs were taking so long, and costing so much, was because australia was asking France to modify their nuclear design to conventional power.
And then when we decided we wanted nuclear subs, instead of just buying existing french designs, we fucked them over and bought US subs.
Like, what the fuck? God scomo and his government were a fucking joke.
thevalid t1_j6mchqo wrote
French boats need to be refueled every 6-8 years and can only be refueled in France. i'm sure you can understand why this would never be workable.
we asked them to design a conventional boat, they choose to modify a nuke boat then start from new.
BloodyChrome t1_j6mj34e wrote
The nuclear subs from US/UK are a better choice even the ALP agreed with that. French subs are rubbish, now the conventional builds may have been taking so long and costing so much because of a modification but they knew they were making modifications and so were over budget and behind schedule even after taking all that into account
killingtime1 t1_j6m6rfr wrote
Just FYI in case you're not following as close as us Australians are, the submarines are not expected to be in the water for another 40 years. I will be 70+ by then
thevalid t1_j6mdmzv wrote
road map will drop in march so we will find out then, the only way it could even take 40 years if we dont go with an off the shelf design and build them all in aus. In all likelihood we will be using a nuke boat built in the USA by mid 2030 or early 2040
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