isjahammer t1_j639m99 wrote
Reply to comment by Graega in A Russian graveyard reveals Wagner's prisoner army by reuters
I'm gonna take a guess here and say that would vary a lot even in different groups of Wagner. Impossible that all of them don't have anything humane left in them. But I guess it's the job of western news/propaganda to make them look as bad as possible. Disturbing occurrences just make for more clicks then saying there have been some cases of...
johnnybeehive t1_j63cdts wrote
Wtf...
isjahammer t1_j63ep6g wrote
Just want to keep a realistic estimate. Seems that reddit loves to make every single russian and soldier the literal devil without any refinement. I understand though because that's the easy way to go for most people that doesn't require any empathy or deeper thinking.
johnnybeehive t1_j63etrn wrote
I imagine you think a sizeable portion of these people are just doing their jobs.
Hairless_Ape_ t1_j643aoi wrote
Wagner is literally recruiting violent criminals. These aren't tax cheats. The system most highly incentivizes those serving the longest sentences, so it's the murders and rapists that are first to volunteer. So I am indeed short on empathy, but I think it's you who is short on critical thinking.
Given that Russia (through its predecessor, the USSR) still holds the world championship for civilian rapes (Berlin, 1945), then maybe you think that the Wagner guys are indeed just regular Russian soldiers...
isjahammer t1_j64jkjb wrote
They are recruiting criminals. But a) not in the higher ranks and b) not everyone in Wagner is a criminal.
Hairless_Ape_ t1_j64ksxw wrote
"Only some of them are convinced murderers and rapists, so they're really very nice people."
There doesn't exist enough napalm to give each and every invader exactly what they deserve.
axonxorz t1_j65aqh8 wrote
b) but they are still soldiers fighting in a war that their government started
Millerbomb t1_j64azca wrote
> job of western news/propaganda
Wagner uploading videos of them killing their own man with a sledge hammer does the work for western news
LatterTarget7 t1_j65ausp wrote
I mean this is like saying not everyone in the ss could’ve been that bad.
The Wagner group in Africa entire job is to clean out villages.
Their job in Ukraine is to kill any Russians who retreat. They also rape and beat the Russians before execution. They kill their own men if they don’t follow orders.
There’s no one left in the ranks besides the absolute worst. Cause if you aren’t the worst you are raped beaten and executed
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