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Zona643 t1_j6ggk5l wrote

Reply to comment by orgngrndr01 in US to renew efforts to reduce India's oil, military 'dependency' on Russia by Falls_stuff

Do we think india will get F-35’s? We won’t give them to Turkey.

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SuperRedShrimplet t1_j6h2yos wrote

Nope. India's air force is more French than Russian nowadays anyway. They also have plans for their own 5th gen fighter.

Furthermore, India's desire to be (at least nominally) neutral would not really fit well into becoming dependent on the US for military, which they would be if they accepted F-35s and wanted to use the F-35s to their full potential.

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JKKIDD231 t1_j6gp2ot wrote

Rumors are that France Rafale won the bid for 26 fighter jets for the IAF carrier outdoing the Boeing F-18. Deal is expected to be signed when Macron visits India in March.

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Sad_Test8010 t1_j6hjgah wrote

Rumour has it. America may give the f35s to India but the electronic suites will be way different like the Israeli ones. Probably downgraded.

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Alarm_Clock_2077 t1_j6h0gr9 wrote

Turkey and India are different and in different positions you know.

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TrickData6824 t1_j6h5ggs wrote

Yes. One has been a loyal NATO ally since 1952 and the other has been an ally of Russia since 1971. I'll let you guess who is who.

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Alarm_Clock_2077 t1_j6hgkwb wrote

Ally lmao. India doesn't have any allies. Also, Russia didn't exist back in 1971.

Anyways, the US govt. views India as an important partner to curb China's expansionism. India has taken steps to counter China and work towards the same cause. The US viewed Turkey as an ally to work against Russia, however Turkey's caliph Erdogan has done otherwise.

I swear man, redditors have to be living in a separate timeline.

By the way, India has been offered the F-15EX, F/A-18, F-21 (upgraded F16 Blk 70) etc, all of which are coming to the Aero India expo scheduled some time later. And guess which fighter is coming along too. You guessed it, the F35. There is a big chance it would be pitched to India.

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TrickData6824 t1_j6iinbe wrote

>Russia didn't exist back in 1971

Yeah sure. And Ukraine only started existing in 1991./s Go believe your ridiculousness elsewhere.

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Alarm_Clock_2077 t1_j6ixcmm wrote

Lmao you should really read your own comment and apply it on yourself.

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TrickData6824 t1_j6jfe6d wrote

Same could be said for you.

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Alarm_Clock_2077 t1_j6l7tku wrote

lol cry more then.

If you're gonna just argue without reading a single comment, I'm not gonna waste any more time on you. Have a good day or night or whatever.

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Puzzleheaded_Ebb9874 t1_j6ixt5k wrote

Do you even know what happened in 1971 which made India move towards Russia over USA.

US was in support of Pakistan who were genociding people in now modern Bangladesh.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Liberation_War

>The US government stood by its old ally Pakistan in terms of diplomacy and military threats.

>To demonstrate to China the bona fides of the United States as an ally, and in direct violation of the US Congress-imposed sanctions on Pakistan, Nixon sent military supplies to Pakistan and routed them through Jordan and Iran, while also encouraging China to increase its arms supplies to Pakistan. The Nixon administration also ignored reports it received of the genocidal activities of the Pakistani Army in East Pakistan, most notably the Blood telegram.

>Following India's entry into the war, Pakistan, fearing certain defeat, made urgent appeals to the United Nations to intervene and force India to agree to a ceasefire. The UN Security Council assembled on 4 December 1971 to discuss the hostilities in South Asia. After lengthy discussions on 7 December, the United States made a resolution for "immediate cease-fire and withdrawal of troops". While supported by the majority, the USSR vetoed the resolution twice. In light of the Pakistani atrocities against Bengalis, the United Kingdom and France abstained on the resolution.

>Nixon denied getting involved in the situation, saying that it was an internal matter of Pakistan, but when Pakistan's defeat seemed certain, Nixon sent the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise to the Bay of Bengal, a move deemed by the Indians as a nuclear threat.

>The Soviet Union supported Bangladesh and Indian armies, as well as the Mukti Bahini during the war, recognising that the independence of Bangladesh would weaken the position of its rivals—the United States and the People's Republic of China. It gave assurances to India that if a confrontation with the United States or China developed, the USSR would take countermeasures. This was enshrined in the Indo-Soviet friendship treaty signed in August 1971. The Soviets also sent a nuclear submarine to ward off the threat posed by USS Enterprise in the Indian Ocean.

>The Soviet Union accorded recognition to Bangladesh on 25 January 1972. The United States delayed recognition for some months, before according it on 8 April 1972.

This same Kissinger was awarded Nobel Peace Prize somehow.

Also some things are perfectly analogical to current Russian invasion of Ukraine. The US and Russia exchanged their roles of pouncing on the perfect opportunity to hit 2 targets with 1 arrow. Being on the morally good side of history in the war and weakening their cold war rival.

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