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bingold49 t1_j6o1rgl wrote

Caesar Howitzer a good drink for a hangover

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slowlybackwards t1_j6o34sy wrote

When the war is over and if Ukraine wins do they give back any weapons or vehicles they were given?

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UrbanStray t1_j6ocga2 wrote

I feel like there should be a separate sub for this sort of thing, like...maybe a Ukraine War sub? Western countries ongoing support of Ukraine is not news to anyone.

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Aurailious t1_j6oiiga wrote

Replying to slowlybackwards (#1,672,533)

I would have to guess it'll depend on how they organize afterwards. A lot of the equipment will also have gone through a tough war and most is older stuff. Probably a lot will be scrapped, some might be returned if working and still used in those countries inventories. It'll take a long time since I'm sure they'll want to reduce equipment variety and restart their own arms industry again.

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wolflegion_ t1_j6oq1io wrote

Replying to slowlybackwards (#1,672,533)

I believe a lot of countries are using the aid to Ukraine also as a way to offload dated or overstocked equipment. Essentially, the donation to Ukraine is a good excuse to replace them with newer systems.

For example, Germany is in the process of replacing its Marders with a new IFV called the Puma. Hence why they are willing to donate the Marders.

Similarly, the French last year were looking to update the Caesar platform. Instead of retrofitting the existing systems, they are now probably donating (most of) them to Ukraine and just ordering the upgraded version new.

As such, I wouldn’t expect any country to ask for its donated systems back. They will be worn out and already replaced. Doesn’t really make sense to keep a stockpile of worn and outdated stuff.

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