Baneken t1_j6hhb3c wrote on January 30, 2023 at 10:34 AM

Reply to comment by ZealousidealWash5800 in Ukraine calls for faster weapons supplies as Russia presses eastern offensive by redcccp

And you expect the current Russian ones to be that much better when a single good hit from Javelin will literally toss the whole tank into air? Russia had matching modern tanks but they're few or nothing but vaporware & concepts. What they've been using are outdated holdovers from the '90s with some mandatory upgrades.

People have already been whining how some odd 200 tanks ain't doing much... When it's not about the numbers but how you deploy them in the field -200 tanks in one sector supported by infantry & artillery is a lot, peppered throughout the country -not so much.

ZealousidealWash5800 t1_j6hj1ul wrote on January 30, 2023 at 10:59 AM

You're not doing much to argue against that sending 31 abrams isn't going to result in another desert storm...

Javelin would also total an abrams, what's your point?

The design age argument doesn't hold water either: Abrams is 1970s, Leopard is 1980s and Challenger II is 90s. I'm not sure what you're getting at there unless you're arguing all they are using are literally produced in the 90s? As if they've done nothing but produce ladas and nothing else for 30 years.

Also lmao comparing t90m and t72b3 to hand crank tanks? Pull the other one it's got bells on it.