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Inchkeaton t1_j67n3qf wrote

Reply to comment by XLR82Perfection in Ukraine to summon Hungarian envoy over unacceptable remarks by Orban by chippychipper444

Yes, you are right, it's Ukraine's fault so many Ukrainians are dying at the hands of the Russians, silly me for thinking otherwise. I hope they invade my country next, so I can spread my ass cheeks and surrender, which is what you'd have the Ukrainians do. Thanks for showing me the error of my ways.

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XLR82Perfection t1_j67nocr wrote

It's more complex than that. Same thing you said could be said for Iraq vs NATO. It's Ukraine's total foreign policy failure (tbh they are a young country, but bordering a country like Russia, one can't afford mistakes in these fields & Russia's intervention in Georgia, Kazakhastan & Chechnya should've been a lesson). Rather than being a bridge between Russia and the EU, it tilted 100% EU/NATO. As much as we both would like idealism & respect for sovereignty, we both know ground reality doesn't work like that. Before applying to NATO/EU Ukraine should've invested in their military, upto a certain amount that would've made a Russian attack very very costly or unsustainable. In this regard Ukraine's 'inaction' has consequences.

Case in point look at Finland and Sweden. They are strongly armed, neutral & economically integrated with western economies. Only now that Russia is focused on Ukraine, did they decide joining NATO. All this was never the case with Ukraine to begin with.

Also War is never common people's fault. Don't put words in my mouth.

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