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scottguest67 t1_j6ivck0 wrote

Why use a sanitizing term like “ethnic cleansing” for genocide?

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SlimMcTall t1_j6j6hh9 wrote

But the EU told us that Azerbaijan is a reliable and trustworthy partner.

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GiantAxon t1_j6jbopl wrote

Because screaming genocide at everything detracts from the credibility of the person doing the screaming.

In the last 10 or so years the conflict has cost about 4000 Armenian lives and 3000 Azerbaijani lives. For comparison, Russia loses that many troops in a week in Ukraine, inflicting similar casualties on the Ukrainian side. Most of these, by the way, were troops.

It would be silly to call this genocide. If you did, is 9/11 genocide? Similar losses by numbers and all civilians, so why not, right?

You see this with the Israeli Palestinian issue. People talk about "slow motion" genocide because they can't defend the actual genocide accusation either.

For it to be genocide you have to demonstrate someone is trying to wipe out a group of people or a portion of it. What happened to the yazidis with Isis was genocide. What happened in the 20th century in Armenia was genocide. What happened between the tutus and the hutsis was genocide. If we throw in every conflict where 4000 soldiers die and call that a genocide too, we devalue the term - same as calling every teacher you dislike a nazi.

I suspect Armenia, of all countries, knows what a genocide is and how it happens. They're not looking to devalue something they're still fighting to have recognized.

Source: Armenian roots. Azerbaijan can fuck right off, in case anyone is wondering what team I play for.

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Some-Ad9778 t1_j6lueeu wrote

Azerbaijan and armenia had an agreement that azerbaijan would let armenia have access if they could have access to turkey. Armenia never gave them that direct route because russia doesnt want the natural gas to have a direct route to the west through turkey. Now they are blockading supplies to armenians that are wrongfully occuping a mountain in recognized azerbaijan territory. The armenians should leave the mountain and go live in armenia or they should make good on the deal to give access to turkey

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