Oops! Let's clarify. First, I agree with you that AGI is not machine learning. Here's how I use the terms:

AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) - entity with cognitive abilities equal to or better than any given human, across all domains.

ML (Machine Learning): this is how modern AI models are trained, typically in the form of neural nets, attention models, tokenized vectors, and lots of data stirred in a cauldron of TPUs. However we train AGI will be a form of ML (maybe one not developed yet), but the term catches all the ways we've been training models for the last decade or so. Maybe all imaginable AI training techniques are technically ML, but I use it to refer specifically to the tech underlying the recent exciting batch - Stable Diffusion (DALL-E, Midjourney), Large Language Models (ChatGPT, New Bing, LaMDA).

Does that work for you?

> at that point, do you think the AI will even care about making creative content for humans? > > > > It’d be like Scorsese deciding to make a movie exclusively for dogs. Why would he?

When you say "the AI" here, what do you mean exactly? What sorts of traits does that kind of AI have?

> ML is not creative or intelligent. It still needs human direction.

Creativity and intelligence are here already, to a limited extent. Generative AIs are creating in the sense that it's not just collage or parroting. The process is ambivalent to understanding completely novel combinations of ideas, and its outputs can vary to match. It's a worse poet than Shakespeare, a worse historian than a tenured professor, a worse novelist than Tolkien, a worse programmer than Linus, a worse physicist than Einstein, and so on, but it's demonstrating actual intellect in all these domains and more, better than most gradeschoolers and some grown adults.

It does not still need human direction, and that's unrelated to its cognitive powers (creativity, intelligence, etc.) anyway. ChatGPT is an implementation of GPT that requires human direction, but that's a design choice, not an inherent limitation. They wanted a chatbot. If they wanted it to exhibit autonomous behaviour via some complex function to decide for itself what to read, when to reply, and where to post, they could've done that too.

Cognitive power doesn't cause rebellious independence outside of teenagers and hollywood plot devices. AI designed by anyone who can even spell a-l-i-g-n-m-e-n-t isn't going to start spontaneously deciding what it does and doesn't care about as if it's reached puberty. Maybe it is very hard to design a loss function aligned with our values and maybe we only get one chance, but if we make a strong misaligned AGI I guarantee it won't manifest as meekly as snobbish refusal to cooperate.

Why does GPT care about predicting the next token in a string? Does it philosophize and self-reflect during training to determine if manipulating vectors is what it really wants? Hell no, it just does the math. Only the final trained model is faintly capable of mimicking wetware traits like desire, and it only does that when prompted to.

Oh, yes! My mistake. Definitely check out discord. PM me here if you want to add me there :)

A couple public servers you should probably glance at:

https://discord.com/invite/openai

https://discord.com/invite/midjourney

You can use the Midjourney bot to make your own images if you go to one of their "newbie-##" rooms and type "/imagine [prompt]"

ChatGPT's mostly a cool toy, but there are some tasks it's genuinely useful for. I use it to explain complex topics, write code, brainstorm ideas, and for fun creative writing exercises. I've only tried the free version, but I am seeing mostly disappointment about the pro version.

Definitely check it out for at least curiosity's sake.

I'm unaffiliated but pretty passionate about good design in general. Discord's really the spiritual successor to IRC, which predates the world wide web. The server-channel-role skeleton comes from IRC, but it's so feature rich and easy to use that I can see it supplanting a large portion of the social internet over the next decade. For the last month I've been developing my first discord bot (with chatgpt assistance) and the dev interface is excellent, too.

No experience with slack, so I can't comment on it.

What about a public discord server that only allows actual researchers to post, but allows everyone to view? Easy with roles.

They're such powerfully sensual animals.

Just say "Banff" rather than "the Banff" :)

> screw ai and humanity.

Did you fall in love with a moose during your hike?

It's not like the horse lobby was rallying around climate change a century or two ago, but I really really wish we could've gone easier on the cars. Living in a car-centric city (Calgary) means island-hopping across busy streets to get anywhere, which has an obvious constricting effect on community-building.

More to the point, there's no way that legislation keeps pace this time around. Let's hope we have the opportunity to respond to mistakes while we figure out alignment.

Headline alert:

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Rain ruthlessly wreaks havoc on parched pavement

Moisture mercilessly mauls dry earth

H2O hammers heatwave with hydration

Fog furiously fends off fire with moisture

Drizzle daringly douses blazing sun

Wetness wins war against wilting flowers

Thunderstorm triumphantly trounces temperature

Dew defiantly defeats desertification

Shower savages scorching sands with saturation