Yes corporate America can’t possibly have workers feeling like human beings again, best to manipulate everything in the US economy so that the human cattle return to their cubicles broken and submissive.

It is entirely reasonable to properly and thoroughly vet these asylum seekers. I see nothing wrong with this. Russia is an enemy to the United States, refugees from our enemies should be viewed with deep suspicion.

Buddy you should take a look in the mirror. You’re the one who is insisting that I must bow down before AI artists and recognize their unique genius. I’m simply unimpressed is all. Deal with it. I’m not against AI artwork, I’m just not impressed by it. Sorry not sorry.

You’re wasting time my friend. In the time it took you to post at me, you could have literally created dozens, nay hundreds, of masterpieces with your AI art generator.

Wow, again, so triggered. Listen, if you wanna call yourself an ‘artist’ I’m not stoping you. I’m not going to pretend to be impressed, but that shouldn’t really bother you.

Not sure why folks are so triggered. I mean do people who play guitar hero get triggered when an actual guitar player tells them they aren’t really musicians? Do folks who make paint by numbers truly believe their ‘original’ art should be in a gallery somewhere? I mean, I have no qualms with AI generated ‘artwork’, but am I really expected to consider the folks making it ‘artists’? Because that’s like someone who’s really good at Madden demanding folks consider them an elite level athlete. Just sayin.

I teach computer graphics so I’m familiar with photoshop, lightroom, Illustrator, and have even done some low level work with Maya (3-D animation program). Have I personally laid eyes on one of these AI art generating programs? No. Am I confident that I could figure out the UI quickly and easily navigate the tool menus? Yes.

Hey man, you wanna redesign your own company’s logo? Go for it! Utilitarian art is a different animal. You wanna create and print a ‘landscape painting’ and hang it on your wall, I think that’s awesome. Calling AI fast food was, as I reflect on it, an overly harsh assessment, I think it’s a more apt analogy to liken it to paint by numbers. Which is to say, creative possibilities within a programmed framework.

It is what it is. I’m not a fan, nor am I impressed, but I’m not opposed to folks using it to make logos and wall art and whatever else. And if it brings them joy, well shit, who am I to shit on that?

In my mind it’s not what I consider art, but that’s just me.

‘everyone needs a hobby.’

Brilliant and thankyou. If my hand crafted pen and ink drawing that takes 15 hours is a mere ‘hobby’, then your McDonald’s drive through AI art can never hope to be considered something of any substantive value. I’m pleased you recognize that now.

At a basic level your argument hinges on me accepting that the Sistine Chapel can be replaced by pressing enter on a keyboard. Why do we not replace the NFL with watching dudes play Madden? Why listen to a Jimmy Page guitar solo when you can listen to an even ‘better’ one made by AI? Why buy a $45.00 burger at a top notch restaurant when you can get a quarter pounder at McDonald’s for a tenth of the price?

Your entire argument is predicated on a flimsy premise. Rembrandt’s final self portrait is not the same as a vein of ore that needs extracting from a slab of granite or a field that needs plowing.

And, incidentally, people still pay very handsomely for the work of photographic professionals. I have yet to attend a wedding where the photographer is equipped with an iPhone 12.

p.s. when the internet is down and power is out, I can still draw.

I’m dismissing the idea that typing a word and selecting an image, then doing some basic post processing is art.

Photography is not pointing and clicking, if I handed you my camera bag, you wouldn’t even know how to attach a lens to the camera body, and if you did figure that out, my camera is a pro rig, so unless you know what all those little numbers do, you likely won’t even be able to make a properly exposed photograph. Furthermore, as I said, my photography is not the same as my drawing and painting. Photos take an average of 1/60 of a second to make. The average painting I do is somewhere between 10-20 hours of time. But photography is truth and photographers must bear witness to the truths they record. And for that reason, photography has earned its place in the art world.

Much as I try, I can’t find any similarly compelling attributes to AI art. Its as fast as a photograph, without truth or bearing witness and without any in depth learning about the art.

Like I keep saying, it’s the Cooking Mama of art. You don’t have to agree with me (even though I’ve worked in the visual arts for three decades). My opinion is just that, and opinion.

I mean I’m sure some folks make some pretty cool things using AI. But those of us who can turn a piece of white paper into art with nothing more than a pencil will always be entirely unimpressed by AI ‘art’. Sorry but we’ve earned that privilege.

You are actually speaking to a former professional photographer who teaches both photography and computer graphics. And absolutely I take pride in my work. What I do with a camera is a far different reality from typing a word and clicking enter. And, beyond all the technical understanding that real photography requires, the true art of the photographer is the art of ‘bearing witness’. A photographer must be present in the environment to make the photography. I have spent countless hours walking paths in pitch dark so I could be in a certain location at sunrise. This is a far cry from typing a word and pressing enter.

But even in that I am honest. I was also trained as an illustrator and I am more than happy to admit that no single photograph has challenged me as much as a thirty hour pen and ink drawing. Photography is easier to make than a painting by orders of magnitude and likely wouldn’t qualify as an art form but for the fact that photography is indeed truth and photographers must bear witness.

But AI paintings? Nahh that’s the visual arts version of Cooking Mama. Like I said, enjoy making your little projects, just don’t make the mistake of thinking you are making art.

“a level of quality far exceeding many artists” except that it isn’t because you didn’t actually make anything.

It’s the same as a ‘digital guitar solo’ app. Type in a genre of music, the computer makes a solo, and then you pretend you can play guitar better than Jimmy Page.

Or someone insisting they can cook real food based on the fact that they play video games where they cook.

I’m not suggesting you shouldn’t enjoy your art making app. I’m merely suggesting that whatever pride you take in your ‘creations’ is kinda silly.

Not the same at all. Photography (real photography) requires both skill and apprenticeship. Typing a word into an AI art program and pressing ‘enter’ isn’t in the same universe as any other art form because it isn’t actually an art form. AI art is much closer, in both form and function, to an online horoscope reading.

AI art is the fast food of the art world. Pull up to the window, order a number three from the menu, and blam! You are now the owner of a bag full of shit food with a side of fatty liver. AI art is the exact same thing (minus the fatty liver).