At least it makes sense why animal control is dressed like special forces!

Reminds me of the guy in Manchester who drew penises around potholes so they would get fixed faster.

He called himself “wanksy”.

The best way to make the NY law irrelevant is to pass a decent Federal law.

Second best is probably just to pass a decent law in California so the tech companies all have to follow it anyway. If Apple is forced to do something with brief hardware/software for CA customers they aren’t going to do it differently for other states.

We are talking software support which should be counted from when sales stop to when software support stops - since there would be an expectation to support someone’s device for a reasonable time from when they bought it new from you.

Honestly… I don’t really disagree with that statement for some reasons! But they are mostly Facebook and Instagram related, not Oculus.

They are discontinuing support in 2024, not today. So 4 years in this case for a first gen product that sold less than 1/20th of the current one (and counting).

I’m not trying to argue their policy is better than Apple’s (a company that sells a few hundred million of each model). My original post said it was more than most Android devices (given it’s basically an Android device) and almost as much as Apple. Seems 100% correct, huh?

Yes, and discontinued in 2018. They count from when the last people could buy it, not the first.

The iPhone 6S was discontinued in 2018 and Apple just stopped new OS support for it this year (it can’t get iOS 16). That’s the most recently discontinued model under their new policy and…. is 5 years.

Their other devices tend to be supported longer since there really isn’t much reason for them to stop OS updates for a laptop or streaming box, etc. But we were taking quickly evolving mobile devices here.

Anyway - they entire modern VR industry is less than 8 years old. IMO until it’s more mature 5 years isn’t bad.

It’s basically an Android mobile device. Some of the phones are lucky to get 3 years of support.

Even Apple only promises 5 years of support.

And a lot of those devices cost twice as much.

Lord Stanley says: at least you can drink champagne out of my Cup!

Heh, you credited a repost bot. The original is from 3 years ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingandHiking/comments/bynayv/my_camelbak_took_on_a_life_of_its_own_this_weekend/

So, provoking grizzlies and then temporarily blinding them. Sounds like a nice guy.

“Only produced”? Hugo Boss was a prominent member of the Nazi party and used forced labor in his factories to make Nazi uniforms (starting in the early 30s). Gets no pass because he didn’t literally design them all.

Interestingly I can tell you almost exactly the propagation of this quake. I was on a zoom call with 2 others at the time, and we were about 10, 25, and 40 miles away from the epicenter.

It was confusing at first, but from when I noticed it to when the guy 15 miles (actually more like 13) away noticed it was about 4-5 seconds. So maybe 3-ish miles per second? Was pretty cool to experience that in real time :)

Also, “paid off yesterday” may be a bit of a misnomer. It certainly was a great test, but the quake itself was really mild, if longer than normal for a 5.1. I can’t imagine there were any injuries. Probably a lot of people diving under desks and then sheepishly saying… “was that it?” (But hey, you won’t know how big it is until it hits, so dive away!)

Probably not. But the reverse is also true. People will buy whatever is the fastest for their price range at the time. I’d be pretty happy to get a 4080 for the same price as a 3080 a few months ago, and not have to upgrade for an extra couple years…

That said I don’t even really want a 4K monitor, let alone have one already. And I have no interest in 200Hz gaming, 120Hz is more than enough for me. I think the truly functional real time ray tracing and high end VR support is the only reason I’d consider it now. But it’s irrelevant for me since I just overpaid for an (MSRP, still) 3080 earlier this year. Oh well.

Honestly though I do get your point - IMO the big problem isn’t necessarily that there is no use for faster cards, it’s that the market is so saturated with SKUs no one can figure out what the fuck they should get any more… I feel like a lot of “last gen” cards are either going to get very cheap and/or lose OEMs a bunch of money…

Technology matches on… should they just tell all of their engineers to take a year off? ;)

I still have an iSmell (yes, it was a real company) t-shirt from the Game Developers Conference way back in like 2001. I guess they were only 20 years ahead of their time.