Lmfao electric cars an insignificant factor when it comes to climate change. The solution isn’t more environmentally friendly cars, it’s adequate public transportation to significantly reduce our reliance on cars in the first place

It won’t make a difference. It’s just a way of kicking it down the road. It’ll be delayed again

Yeah I agree, but it was still a step in the right direction I think. A lot of companies got around it by only hiring part time employees as well. That wasn’t the reason it was gutted though, the plan was seen as radical and too progressive and that was my point. Even neoliberal polices in this country are slandered by the right as socialist

Yeah, that’s what I was talking about when I said the ACA was gutted

Yeah in other words, theory. Of course it doesn’t work in the real world but that doesn’t mean companies and the overall economy doesn’t attempt these ideas

https://www.uschamberfoundation.org/sites/default/files/The%20Growth%20Imperative.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/46509898_Is_there_a_growth_imperative_in_capitalist_economies_A_circular_flow_perspective

Yeah man, no one

Cyclical short term, endless growth long term.

> because evolution made us naturally opportunistic as part of our survival mechanism.

I don't necessarily believe that and even if that is true our entire existence as humans is about overcoming god, we fight it every day.

>Give a human any system and they will attempt to exploit it. The real benefit of capitalism is the check and balance. I don't let you cheat because it costs me money and you won't let me cheat because it costs you money.

This just isn't true, companies are becoming more and more consolidated every single year, hurting competition, consumers and especially the workers. It is in the name, capitalism benefits capital owners and people who make money off of other people's labor, not the workers. So unless you're going to show me the keys to your factory, I don't see why you're licking the boot.

>Can you give any example of non-capitalism governments that don't have greed and sustainability problems?

What does this even matter man? Let's assume your premise is true, so what people are corrupt? Does that means the richest country on earth can't provide people with housing, education, healthcare and ensure that workers see more of their surplus labor value?

100%. Look at the UK as well, Boris Johnson, right wing enough to be compared to Donald Trump still ran on expanding healthcare for its citizens. He would be called a socialist by Fox News in America.

> And yet we tie healthcare and wages necessary for minimal survival on systems built to fail large numbers of people.

Which is what the gutted version of the ACA provided us, a bandaid fix with barely any glue. It's so sad how far to the right the US has gone. Obamacare, wasn't a new idea, Nixon talked about the same ideas in regards to healthcare. https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/special-message-the-congress-proposing-national-health-strategy

It's so insane how far back in time reactionaries have brought us and they will take us further.

Capitalism necessitates endless growth year after year even when you are already netting billions upon billions. It is not sustainable, not for the environment and not for the workers.