Dischordance
Dischordance t1_iwk7mh2 wrote
Reply to comment by DukeLukeivi in Italian startup Energy Dome claims its CO2 grid storage batteries are cheaper than lithium-ion, and need no rare minerals, being made from just off-the-shelf steel components, water & CO2. It's opening its first 200 MWh facility in Sardinia in 2023 by lughnasadh
The startup cost difference isn't negligible, and it could easily be used with a carbon capture project.
And I'll wait for third party tests on either's efficiency before I believe the real world numbers.
And, as someone who enjoys going offroad/off grid for longer than an electric will allow, I absolutely see the use case for hybrids.
Dischordance t1_iwk5ed0 wrote
Reply to comment by DukeLukeivi in Italian startup Energy Dome claims its CO2 grid storage batteries are cheaper than lithium-ion, and need no rare minerals, being made from just off-the-shelf steel components, water & CO2. It's opening its first 200 MWh facility in Sardinia in 2023 by lughnasadh
To my understanding, the benefits from co2 come from being able to compress it into a liquid at room temperature leading to an efficiency advantage, and simpler, probably cheaper systems to build.
But moreover, I don't see any reason why both couldn't be viable in different situations, with liquid air near sources of waste thermal energy, etc.
Dischordance t1_iwj19zb wrote
Reply to comment by MashimaroG4 in Italian startup Energy Dome claims its CO2 grid storage batteries are cheaper than lithium-ion, and need no rare minerals, being made from just off-the-shelf steel components, water & CO2. It's opening its first 200 MWh facility in Sardinia in 2023 by lughnasadh
The fact these don't need the exotic elements to function, coupled with not needing major tech breakthroughs makes these incredibly viable.
Dischordance t1_iwltoze wrote
Reply to comment by DukeLukeivi in Italian startup Energy Dome claims its CO2 grid storage batteries are cheaper than lithium-ion, and need no rare minerals, being made from just off-the-shelf steel components, water & CO2. It's opening its first 200 MWh facility in Sardinia in 2023 by lughnasadh
Because I doubt that a more complex system that requires extreme cold, and excess thermal energy and the storage of both will have both efficiency and cost advantages over a similar, less complex system that can function at ambient temperatures.
As this is a battery, it would be a one time carbon capture energy price, and then would be a form of sequestering it. It wouldn't be a constant input.
And until both are proven in the real world, where both are currently in the process of doing so. I don't think claiming one is so much better that the other has no use is warranted.
That is a better analogy than hybrids. Still don't think it's very applicable based on what I've seen.