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EarthSolar t1_jdxzs7l wrote

Good luck launching something up there to tow the junk all the way to Venus. The junk does not have its own propulsion system, and most definitely not enough to dish 4 km/s needed to leave Earth’s orbit and intercept Venus.

Why add prohibitive amount of fuel just to send the junk to some distant destination when you can just get functional satellites to, like, do controlled deorbit over uninhabited areas and let atmospheric entry destroy them.

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EarthSolar t1_jdwuwab wrote

The idea of high altitude haze is for the haze to be in a zone where the atmospheric pressure is too low to effectively transport heat from dayside to nightside, and thus causing it to look like airless planet. That said the haze itself might move and jeopardize this, but I figured it's better to ask.

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EarthSolar t1_jdwi80v wrote

People were indeed surprised, although I’m wondering if a very high altitude dark haze layer would be able to cloak signs of carbon dioxide, which the paper notably points to the lack of, and mimic airless body.

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EarthSolar t1_jdwhtdc wrote

Well, the lack of atmosphere on a planet we expect to have the strongest outgassing (due to intense tidal/induction heating) to replenish anything lost in the wind is telling things about the other worlds. Still - fingers crossed for results on TRAPPIST-1 g which are apparently in the works right now.

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EarthSolar t1_jda578n wrote

It’s also really, really young, at 140 million years according to Wikipedia. Jovian worlds and brown dwarfs form hot, and at young age they can be as hot as the coolest stars at ~2000-3000 Kelvins. They cool over time, but the rate is slowed from what you’d normally expect due to gravitational contraction converting planet mass’ gravitational potential energy into thermal energy as the planet shrinks down.

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EarthSolar t1_jbz5gqh wrote

We do not have data for the lower end, but we do have some clue of where the higher end may be. We already have discovered a few systems where the mass fraction is very different from the Solar System’s (where planets take up ~0.134% of all system mass). Going by Wiki numbers, Gliese 876’s mass fraction within known planets is almost 1%, while Titawin and HR 8799 both have that number at almost 2%.

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EarthSolar t1_j8vxjz2 wrote

It's a little funny to hear Mercury mining now that I know it's weirdly iron-poor on the surface. Despite having the highest core fraction, its surface is really lacking in that stuff. I wonder what resources can be found on the Mercurian surface - I recall carbon is one, but not sure about other stuff aside from the usual silicates.

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EarthSolar t1_j8v5wkc wrote

please don’t try to get yourself a personal magnetosphere. It’s not worth it.

Jokes aside, I believe we’re not really sure how and why intrinsic magnetospheres show up on Earth and Mercury but not Venus and Mars (which have induced ones which block solar wind better instead). Mercury, Earth, and Mars are all known to have liquid core, but it seems Mars’ core isn’t convecting and thus no dynamo.

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