It’s not a shitty point, though.

> Sure I do.

By all means, show it

> Then it's a shitty point.

Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s shitty.

> Lmao this is exactly why it's fine to call anyone who says "I like housing, but...." a nimby. Vaguely complaining about "affordability" and "luxury" is NIMBY 101. You're literally the problem.

No, you’re the problem, because you have no plan for keeping housing affordable.

It’s not even good, though. How come the poor are forced to fight for expensive scraps while the rich get the lion’s share of housing?

> They work to stop building anything which lowers supply and do nothing to reduce NYC's insanely high cost of labor (exacerbated by union rules) that makes building anything but luxury condos prohibitive.

Ah yes, if we only got rid of those pesky unions and treated the poor like the animals they are, everything would be fine.

Give me a fucking break.

My point is you can’t just blanket throw out accusations of nimbyism at every critique of the city’s half-assed plan to expand housing. The housing market can’t sustain building only luxury apartments.

Bullshit it is. Please show us where all the affordable housing is being built.

Neither do I. I’m probably in the part of Manhattan that’s the closest to livable for a DINK household anyway.

Yes? It’s not just midtown. It’s everywhere, bro. Get out of your bubble.

Lack of evidence? My evidence is the average rent in the city. Do you really expect someone to afford a $3000 apartment on minimum wage? Lmao

That’s not the issue at all, but okay.

Have fun with your anecdotal evidence.

How many people is that?

> It would make economic sense to build more sanely priced apartments and make a quick buck instead of tearing down the building to build more luxury. It's actually better for their short term profit for once.

Based on what exactly? If anything, the flip will incentivize them more to make those apartments luxury, because the people in the area are rich anyway and they’ll probably already put a lot of money into plumbing the building and making sure it has apartment code safety measures.

If only Adams had the stones to propose that 🤔

The market isn’t flooding with affordable units, though, so the demand isn’t being met anyway.

And if the AG intervenes, it may get torn down and we go back to square one.

I think they’re saying it would take far more resources doing that than simply tearing the building down and doing it from scratch. Office buildings are built to hold, well, offices, not apartments.

This is the same administration that wants to forcibly hospitalize homeless people without expanding outpatient care. I wouldn’t put it past them to be that stupid.

Isn’t the issue the same as the current market rate housing stock? Foreign millionaires and billionaires buying up one or two units for investments and never using them? How exactly is that going to create downward pressure on rents?

Won’t we just run into the same problems that happens to current luxury housing stock? Foreign millionaires and billionaires are going to buy one or two of them and never use them for investment purposes, meaning it won’t actually go to the middle and working class people who actually need affordable spaces.

Not to mention they need an excuse to keep their employees coming to the office instead of fleeing for wfh opportunities.

“Oh, won’t you think of the poor small businesses you’re killing by not coming to work???”

Yeah, we need to double that to even keep pace.

Don’t cheer just yet. I’ll believe the hype when I see results.

Please show me where I’m “promoting hatred of police?” All of the articles I cited happened, so it’s not like I’m lying about them.

You aren’t even listening to your own family? Goddamn, you must be a terrible child.

> immediately preceding the time Guiliani came up and cleaned up with a strong police force

[citation needed]

> And considering that 96% of shooting victims in NYC are black or Latino - Guiliani and Bloomberg saved thousands of Black and Latino lives with their strong police forces.

And yet both communities were fiercely critical of them both, including the current mayor. You need to believe black and brown communities when they’re saying stuff like that.

u/jl250 is this the police force you think is being undermined by progressives?