Fantastic_Beans

Fantastic_Beans t1_jdq949f wrote

Funny enough, this happens a lot more than you think. Apparently, the elders at the retirement villages act like they're on Gray's Anatomy or something. I've heard stories

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Fantastic_Beans t1_jdpw30j wrote

I'll give you a cheat sheet in case your wife dies and leaves 65-69 year old you alone:

Know how to cook

Know how to keep a house clean and orderly

Know how to do laundry

Know how/when to make doctor's appointments

And take your goddamn medicine!

Honestly, I'm pretty sure it's the whole "men refuse to see a doctor unless their wives force them to" thing that does them in. Why are y'all like this?

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Fantastic_Beans t1_jdpvsjv wrote

I work at a hospital. The amount of times an old man has answered the question "What medicines do you take?" With "I don't know, but my wife has a list." Makes my head spin. Sir, you are 60 years old and you can't keep track of a medicine list on your own?

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Fantastic_Beans t1_ir8p4gw wrote

Yes. Cholesterol in food has a mild affect on cholesterol blood levels. However, fat and carbohydrates have a massive effect on blood cholesterol levels. Saturated fats in particular.

Inuit people include raw blubber in their diet; it's their main source of vitamin C. Blubber is mostly fat. Saturated fat.

I don't think I should have to explain this any further. Since you don't seem to understand and your grip on nutritional science is lacking, I won't be responding any further to you. Feel free to research the topic on your own, but I'm not being paid to tutor.

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Fantastic_Beans t1_ir7ui24 wrote

I don't know where you are getting that information from but

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-and-cholesterol/cholesterol/#:~:text=The%20biggest%20influence%20on%20blood,cholesterol%20you%20eat%20from%20food.

"The biggest influence on blood cholesterol level is the mix of fats and carbohydrates in your diet—not the amount of cholesterol you eat from food."

The main contributor to a high cholesterol level is a high fat, low fiber diet . There are different types of fat, some good, some bad. The very worst of the worst are trans fats and saturated fats. Saturated fats are found almost exclusively in animal products, with the odd exception of coconut.

Inuits ate/eat a high fat, low fiber diet almost exclusively. That diet is loaded with saturated fat. While other environmental factors might also elevate the risk of cardiac disease, what they put in their bodies is inarguably the biggest factor.

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Fantastic_Beans t1_ir6o4z7 wrote

High cholesterol diets have time and time again been linked to heart disease, so I think I'd been hard pressed to believe that a culture that lives almost exclusively off of meat and fats isn't victim to heart disease because of their diet. Smoke may play a part, but the diet certainly doesn't help.

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Fantastic_Beans t1_ir6exi6 wrote

The Americas, aside from Canada, can hardly be considered a cold climate. There's plenty of farms and growing season in the northern US, and anything south of the border is considered the tropics. People just like to make excuses for their terrible eating habits. Portion sizes have almost doubled in the past few decades, and that includes the meat portion.

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Fantastic_Beans t1_ir5n6sx wrote

Sure, red meat every once in a while as a treat. But not every day, and certainly not at every meal. The World Cancer Research Fund acknowledges that lean red meat is better than fattier pieces, however, it should still be limited in your diet. Other sources recommend three servings a week or less. https://www.wcrf.org/diet-activity-and-cancer/cancer-prevention-recommendations/limit-red-and-processed-meat/

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Fantastic_Beans t1_ir5m84c wrote

I never said meat was bad. I said eating meat at every meal was bad. Everything in moderation. By the way, the near all meat diet of the Inuit people does take a toll on the body. Here's a few interesting links.

http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1814937!/httpFile/file.pdf "Inuit have a similar prevalence of CAD (coronary artery disease) as non-Inuit populations, they have excessive mortality due to cerebrovascular strokes, their overall mortality is twice as high as that of non-Inuit populations, and their life expectancy is approximately 10 years shorter than the Danish population."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23489753

"Young Eskimo adults (20 to 39 years) of both sexes were similar to whites, but after age 40 the Eskimos of both sexes had a deficit of from 10 to 15% relative to white standards." (Note that the word "Eskimo" is used here because this article was written in 1974, before the word was ultimately replaced) https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-abstract/27/9/916/4911797?redirectedFrom=PDF

Due to their habit of eating raw meat, up to 12% over the age of 60 had trichinella. But eating raw meat was crucial to the Inuit, because their main source of vitamin C was raw seal and whale blubber. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20144253/

So maybe the Inuit diet isn't the best example. It worked, sure, but I wouldn't write home about how healthy it was.

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Fantastic_Beans t1_ir4jplc wrote

Meat for our ancient ancestors was a treat, not a staple. Nuts, grains, roots and tubers, and carbs.

https://www.calacademy.org/explore-science/early-human-diets#:~:text=Prior%20to%20about%203.5%20million,modern%2Dday%20gorillas%20and%20chimpanzees.

"Prior to about 3.5 million years ago, early humans dined almost exclusively on leaves and fruits from trees, shrubs, and herbs—similar to modern-day gorillas and chimpanzees."

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Fantastic_Beans t1_ir4ij2u wrote

Yes. It's been a health problem a lot of body builders face. I believe the effect on the kidneys is particularly bad. Processing all that extra protein overworks the kidneys and can lead to scarring and eventually decline. Drinking tons of water can mitigate the harm, however.

But that's just the effect on the kidneys. The liver damage and effect on the heart due to high cholesterol intake can't be mitigated with extra water.

Although, the high cholesterol can be countered by using vegan protein supplements instead of whey or animal based.

Still, intentionally overdosing on protein had it's risks.

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Fantastic_Beans t1_ir4fsa3 wrote

Diets with excessively high protein can damage your kidneys, liver, heart, and bones. Anything above 0.8g per kg of body weight is considered too high. So if you weigh 280 pounds, sure. Otherwise, you might wanna cut back. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4045293/#:~:text=Extra%20protein%20is%20not%20used,or%20even%20cancer%20%5B31%5D.

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