GeorgeDaGreat123
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j1qfd4i wrote
Reply to comment by Lycoris1313 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Thank you for the comment.
This was completed within the first week (during orientation week) before any proper curriculum was taught. There were many speeches and emails about "imposter syndrome" from faculty heads and professors though, as it seems to be a significant problem at my university every year.
The male:female ratio here was 3:2 so I would assume it is probably less likely for harassment to happen.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j1qeflo wrote
Reply to comment by errdayimshuffln in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
The ratio was 3:2 male:female here
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j1qe86p wrote
Reply to comment by OkPersonality6513 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Unfortunately (or fortunately), the mean. median. and mode of those who were admitted into my program was 97-98% because the program's so competitive.
That would be an interesting statistic to compare in another less competitive program where marks may be more varied though — like business or the sciences.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j1qdtzd wrote
Reply to comment by roundhousemb in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
The fact that there were only students with high school averages in the 90s is because the software engineering program at my university is incredibly competitive.
At a 93% average, you have a 5% probability of admission.
The mean, median, and mode of all high school averages of those admiited into the program was between 97 and 98%. This statistic includes everyone as it was released by university admissions themself.
Since the surveyed mean above is also in the range of 97-98%, and 80% of people responded, I don't think that type of bias should be an issue.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j1qcv7j wrote
Reply to comment by Sheamus_1852 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
This survey had a male to female ratio of 3:2 (which is the same as the composition of the software engineering program at my university). Yes that last part sounds quite interesting.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j1qcc4k wrote
Reply to comment by xavia91 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Yes, thank you for the comment. I agree confidence level would have been a better word choice.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j1qc75p wrote
Reply to comment by KeepTangoAndFoxtrot in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
No incentives, but we email this 50 question survey out to freshman at the beginning of the term. We also get our department leads and professors to send out an email to everyone.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j1qbvls wrote
Reply to comment by Thenerdy9 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
The ratio of men to women was roughly 3:2
I've provided the mean and the std deviation at the top of the chart for each number by gender, so you don't have to rely solely on the graph which as you mention may have a few flaws.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j1qbjpw wrote
Reply to comment by CrushgrooveSC in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Thank you for the comment. I agree "confidence level" would have been a better way of wording it than "imposter syndrome".
The reason I used that word is just because it's the word our university faculty and professors chose to use to describe "confidence level".
Our admissions into our university faculty is extremely competitive in Canada, even surpassing a few American schools, and they see a wave of incoming freshman slowly lose their hope and confidence in themself, so professors often give speeches about "imposter syndrome".
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j1qa6k2 wrote
Reply to comment by turgy22 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
The 2 questions were worded similar to my comment above:
Please provide your high school average (to 1 decimal place)
Rate your imposter syndrome! 0 = I was bred for this program 10 = I think the admissions committee got my application mixed up with someone else's
You make a fair point in the last bit. This survey was sent out at the very beginning of the term, before any university curriculum was taught, so the conclusion still holds — but the reason for that could be that women in software engineering generally enter university with less coding experience than men in thr same situation. Anyways, sounds interesting, I might dig through the data and make another graph later.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j1psdqj wrote
Reply to [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Data Source: A 50 question survey that my team and I conducted at my university. Around 80% of those surveyed responded. The male:female ratio of those surveyed was 3:2, which was roughly equal to the gender ratio of respondents (also 3:2).
Survey Methodology: For this particular question, survey participants were asked to provide their high school average to 1 decimal place and rate their imposter syndrome on a scale of 0 to 10 (0 being nonexistent or extremely low, 10 being extremely high).
Tools Used: Google Forms for data collection, Node.js for data cleaning/formatting/analysis, React.js for data visualization. Added additional labels and statistics using Affinity Designer. Took about 300 lines of JavaScript code in total.
Based on the graph, it seems that women face far greater imposter syndrome than men, when starting a Software Engineering degree, despite having similar high school averages.
Questions and criticisms welcome.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j0xe7d2 wrote
Reply to comment by apexmachina in [OC] 2021 and 2022 job searches as a Software Engineering Intern in Canada by GeorgeDaGreat123
sankeymatic.com
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j0wt4kt wrote
Reply to comment by c00lme1 in [OC] 2021 and 2022 job searches as a Software Engineering Intern in Canada by GeorgeDaGreat123
Yeah but it was so unorganized and I barely did anything except a bit of work making a few React components, so I would barely consider it one.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j0woooa wrote
Reply to comment by c00lme1 in [OC] 2021 and 2022 job searches as a Software Engineering Intern in Canada by GeorgeDaGreat123
Not sure I understand what you mean. Before 2021, I interned at a messy pre-seed startup that never really got far. The 2021 job search led to me interning at a startup with 100+ employees and around $100M in funding raised.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j0wnkao wrote
Reply to comment by c00lme1 in [OC] 2021 and 2022 job searches as a Software Engineering Intern in Canada by GeorgeDaGreat123
no, I didn't
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j0wkwi7 wrote
Reply to comment by ConfidentProfit4236B in [OC] 2021 and 2022 job searches as a Software Engineering Intern in Canada by GeorgeDaGreat123
If they mention I'm currently a top candidate during the interview, I ask them about product/team placement, salary expectations, and benefits. They are usually flexible on the first two. This is when I mention I'm interviewing at XX other places offering $YY/hr so I try to push them 20-40% upwards in terms of pay depending on what they've already offered. It's not really any different from full-time offer negotiations.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j0v5smq wrote
Reply to comment by AzorAhaiIsJonSnow in [OC] 2021 and 2022 job searches as a Software Engineering Intern in Canada by GeorgeDaGreat123
Ah yeah that would explain it. Civil's tough — it has one of the lowest rates of ppl successfully getting internships, compared to 13 other engineering programs at my university
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j0v1sis wrote
Reply to comment by AzorAhaiIsJonSnow in [OC] 2021 and 2022 job searches as a Software Engineering Intern in Canada by GeorgeDaGreat123
I know a few ppl in 2nd year working at Tesla & Apple for mechanical/electrical engineering jobs. Crazy! But yeah generally it seems to be considerably more difficult for non-software engineering.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j0v1ku5 wrote
Reply to comment by sejigan in [OC] 2021 and 2022 job searches as a Software Engineering Intern in Canada by GeorgeDaGreat123
Thanks! Yeah, last year the process often felt quite demoralizing, but it's been much better this year.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j0v1e7w wrote
Reply to comment by RVP97 in [OC] 2021 and 2022 job searches as a Software Engineering Intern in Canada by GeorgeDaGreat123
sankeymatic.com
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j0uju8z wrote
Reply to comment by alc4pwned in [OC] 2021 and 2022 job searches as a Software Engineering Intern in Canada by GeorgeDaGreat123
It really does yeah. I thought it'd be harder because of the current state of the economy, but I guess that factor is far outweighed by having a past internship.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j0uiu7c wrote
Reply to comment by Paranoias in [OC] 2021 and 2022 job searches as a Software Engineering Intern in Canada by GeorgeDaGreat123
2nd year computer science major
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j0u8ncx wrote
Reply to [OC] 2021 and 2022 job searches as a Software Engineering Intern in Canada by GeorgeDaGreat123
I tracked data for my 2021 and 2022 job searches using Notion databases. I love Notion :) Diagrams were built in Sankeymatic, and arranged together in Affinity Designer.
GeorgeDaGreat123 OP t1_j1qfu1t wrote
Reply to comment by rabbiskittles in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Good point, thanks