Guided_by_His_Light

Guided_by_His_Light t1_j1kzbj4 wrote

> 1. I do not believe the Tanakh (Old Testament) correlates with Christmas. The Tanakh stands and exists on its own merits, even if Christianity had never existed.

Are you always so evasive with handling Scripture? I guess I just need to lay it out there directly:

Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jer.10.1,Jer.10.2,Jer.10.3,Jer.10.4,Jer.10.5&version=KJV

Blatantly, very much points and correlates with the practices of Christmas. So, explain.

>2. As I noted elsewhere here, there is no solid Biblical evidence to support any individual date of the birth of Jesus.

That’s not what I asked. And to the contrary, there are many evidences to a specific time of year. Do you know what time of year that is?

>3. ⁠I believe the Resurrection is why we have all heard of Jesus, otherwise He would have been in history simply another inconvenient Israelite executed by the empire. But to make it to the Resurrection, we need the Incarnation. Without it, there is no Resurrection--just as there is no Resurrection without Crucifixion. They are all important.

It’s the Death & Resurrection of Jesus Christ, Full Stop. Jesus is literally the Word of God, he existed from the beginning, see John 1. The Birth of Jesus may be an honorable mention, but it does not compare to what he’s done for us. God’s performed Many miracles, in fact his Creation of All things is by far his greatest work, but we wouldn’t put that miracle ahead of His work to Save us, just we shouldn’t place the birth on par with his sacrifice for Us.

What is the Gospel about? What is the real Good News? His Birth? Or His resurrection? By what act are we saved by? It’s clearly the resurrection.

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