ImSuperHelpful

ImSuperHelpful t1_j9bqacf wrote

Those relevant excerpts and similar features have been pretty detrimental to search click through rates in certain areas (they’re known as “no click” searches in the industry)… but the alternative is to block google bots entirely, which isn’t viable if you’re operating a content site since google has an effective monopoly on search. Also, those features do still link out to the content they’re showing on the SERP, whereas the chat ai doesn’t and gives the appearance that it’s the source of the information.

Your point about vocabulary is fair

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ImSuperHelpful t1_j9biixs wrote

I didn’t present it as a rebuttal, I added important context that was missing from your question that makes the answer much more clear.

And these thing are unreliable now, but Microsoft and others are dumping billions of dollars into making them better and they’re doing it for profit. Waiting around until they’re perfected before fighting against the ongoing unfair use of copyrighted content is a sure fire strategy to losing that fight.

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ImSuperHelpful t1_j9awd5k wrote

Except that’s what was missing from your original point, but either way I gave you a starting point… if it’s beneficial for both parties and both parties consent (which content site operators do via robot.txt instructions), no one has a problem. In the AI case it’s beneficial to the AI creator/owner but harmful to the content owner since the AI is competing with them by using their content, so it shouldn’t be considered free use.

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ImSuperHelpful t1_j9apjid wrote

Your argument neglects the business side of the situation which explains the motivations to allow and disallow use in the two scenarios… if I run a content website, a search engine crawling the site so it can generate search results which send traffic to my site is beneficial to both parties, it’s symbiotic.

Alternatively, if I run a content site that an AI company crawls and then uses to train a model which then negates the need for my site to would-be visitors, it’s parasitic.

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