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ImSuperHelpful t1_j9brj6f wrote
Reply to comment by gurenkagurenda in OpenAI Is Faulted by Media for Using Articles to Train ChatGPT by Tough_Gadfly
That’s all they’ve launched on this front, that doesn’t mean it’s all they’re working on
ImSuperHelpful t1_j9bqacf wrote
Reply to comment by zutnoq in OpenAI Is Faulted by Media for Using Articles to Train ChatGPT by Tough_Gadfly
Those relevant excerpts and similar features have been pretty detrimental to search click through rates in certain areas (they’re known as “no click” searches in the industry)… but the alternative is to block google bots entirely, which isn’t viable if you’re operating a content site since google has an effective monopoly on search. Also, those features do still link out to the content they’re showing on the SERP, whereas the chat ai doesn’t and gives the appearance that it’s the source of the information.
Your point about vocabulary is fair
ImSuperHelpful t1_j9biixs wrote
Reply to comment by gurenkagurenda in OpenAI Is Faulted by Media for Using Articles to Train ChatGPT by Tough_Gadfly
I didn’t present it as a rebuttal, I added important context that was missing from your question that makes the answer much more clear.
And these thing are unreliable now, but Microsoft and others are dumping billions of dollars into making them better and they’re doing it for profit. Waiting around until they’re perfected before fighting against the ongoing unfair use of copyrighted content is a sure fire strategy to losing that fight.
ImSuperHelpful t1_j9awd5k wrote
Reply to comment by gurenkagurenda in OpenAI Is Faulted by Media for Using Articles to Train ChatGPT by Tough_Gadfly
Except that’s what was missing from your original point, but either way I gave you a starting point… if it’s beneficial for both parties and both parties consent (which content site operators do via robot.txt instructions), no one has a problem. In the AI case it’s beneficial to the AI creator/owner but harmful to the content owner since the AI is competing with them by using their content, so it shouldn’t be considered free use.
ImSuperHelpful t1_j9apjid wrote
Reply to comment by gurenkagurenda in OpenAI Is Faulted by Media for Using Articles to Train ChatGPT by Tough_Gadfly
Your argument neglects the business side of the situation which explains the motivations to allow and disallow use in the two scenarios… if I run a content website, a search engine crawling the site so it can generate search results which send traffic to my site is beneficial to both parties, it’s symbiotic.
Alternatively, if I run a content site that an AI company crawls and then uses to train a model which then negates the need for my site to would-be visitors, it’s parasitic.
ImSuperHelpful t1_j9w0bd6 wrote
Reply to US says Google routinely destroyed evidence and lied about use of auto-delete by OutlandishnessOk2452
Oh no, one of the most powerful, influential, and monopolistic corporations in history acted above the law? I’m shocked I tell you, just shocked.