JolietJakeLebowski
JolietJakeLebowski t1_iy40pby wrote
JolietJakeLebowski OP t1_iqmrmbg wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in [OC] Median age difference between US Senators and the US population (1950-2022) v2 by JolietJakeLebowski
That's the thing though. The age gap isn't really increasing. All Americans are getting older about proportionally with the Senate.
JolietJakeLebowski OP t1_iqmnzfc wrote
Reply to comment by Ares1935 in [OC] Median age difference between US Senators and the US population (1950-2022) v2 by JolietJakeLebowski
Good idea, I might reupload with that line if I can find the data. Also, it's 25 and 30 (US Constitution Article 1, Sections 2 and 3).
JolietJakeLebowski OP t1_iqmnmvq wrote
Reply to comment by zebulon99 in [OC] Median age difference between US Senators and the US population (1950-2022) v2 by JolietJakeLebowski
It shows an aging population for sure.
JolietJakeLebowski OP t1_iqmnf9q wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in [OC] Median age difference between US Senators and the US population (1950-2022) v2 by JolietJakeLebowski
The main thing that I would infer here is that while Senators in 2022 are older than they used to be, so is the general population. Proportionately, the current Senate isn't any less representative with regards to age than they were in the '50s and '60s.
I'm not implying anything else with this data really. In another comment I explain that the Senate was always intended to be a bit older than the House, although the Founders probably did not anticipate these kinds of ages (the median age of the first Senate was 47.5 years).
JolietJakeLebowski OP t1_iqmgiel wrote
Reply to comment by that_jedi_girl in [OC] Median age difference between US Senators and the US population (1950-2022) v2 by JolietJakeLebowski
Yep, in hindsight I agree this one is much clearer and faster to read than the old one.
JolietJakeLebowski OP t1_iqmfi65 wrote
Reply to comment by rewindbloopers in [OC] Median age difference between US Senators and the US population (1950-2022) v2 by JolietJakeLebowski
True enough.
JolietJakeLebowski OP t1_iqmf7th wrote
Reply to comment by that_jedi_girl in [OC] Median age difference between US Senators and the US population (1950-2022) v2 by JolietJakeLebowski
I dunno about 'false': an 8-year, 25% drop in the 13 years between '68-'81 is still pretty drastic. But in hindsight I do agree with you guys that this graph is much better (and more representative) than the old one.
JolietJakeLebowski OP t1_iqmegxm wrote
Reply to comment by Bjarki56 in [OC] Median age difference between US Senators and the US population (1950-2022) v2 by JolietJakeLebowski
Yep, the idea was always to have Senators be slightly older than Representatives. Alexander Hamilton explained in Federalist no. 62:
>The qualifications proposed for senators, as distinguished from those of representatives, consist in a more advanced age [...] A senator must be thirty years of age at least; as a representative must be twenty-five. [...] The propriety of these distinctions is explained by the nature of the senatorial trust, which, requiring greater extent of information and stability of character, requires at the same time that the senator should have reached a period of life most likely to supply these advantages [...]
Although I'm not sure if Hamilton had quite these ages in mind. I did some quick Wiki-searching and put the dates of birth of all the first Senators in LibreOffice, and found out that the median age of the 1789 Senate was only 47.47 years.
I cannot find a clear value for median age in 1789, but based on what little I've found, the median age certainly wasn't 20 so the age difference between Senators and the general population was a lot lower at the first Senate meeting.
JolietJakeLebowski OP t1_iqmaqzc wrote
Reply to [OC] Median age difference between US Senators and the US population (1950-2022) v2 by JolietJakeLebowski
Following feedback on my previous post here I decided to upload a (hopefully) more readable version using the same data.
I saw u/SandiePandleton's post on the average age of Senators over time, and I couldn't help but wonder: have Senators gotten older, or has the US population just gotten older?
As you can see, despite appearances 2022 is really not far out of the ordinary: the US Senate has always been a bunch of old geezers. Outliers are 1968, when the average senator was more than twice the age of the average American (27.3 vs 59.3), and 1981, when the difference was 'only' 24 years.
Since I had already done most of the work out of curiosity, I figured I'd clean up the graph a bit and post it for others like me.
Source:
- Senator average age: u/SandiePandleton's earlier post, sources linked there.
- US median age: United Nations, Department of Economic and Social Affairs, Population Division (2022). World Population Prospects 2022, Online Edition.
Tool:
LibreOffice Calc.
JolietJakeLebowski t1_j9axuh6 wrote
Reply to comment by jonnysteps in [OC] The End of Internet Explorer - Market share decline to permanent disablement by Metalytiq
Here.
Market share has gone down, although number of users hasn't declined that much.