So your saying the police shouldn't be after a dangerous criminal who's proven willing to kill and has a long list of serious offenses?

Just cause their might be hypothetical other crimes that are investigated later?

Such a shame to lose him. It didn't seem to matter how serious or silly the show was, he brought such gravitas and charm to every role.

Probably Only Sane By Comparison (when the smartest, most rational and reasonable person is also undeniably crazy themselves) or Normal Fish in a Tiny Pound (when they look smarter, cause everyone else is utterly stupid).

Eh really the market is so big, I think it would take something akin to parts of South America floating off into into the distance.

I'm honestly not sure if even legalising it would make that much difference at this point.

Sure that's nothing new, but this case has been in the media spot light for three years at this point.

If the only claim about it comes from an anonymous post on reddit with no source or much information, then its probably a good sign its not actually true.

>Amazing isn’t it that Ghislaine Maxwell is serving time for all of Jeffrey’s crimes

I mean technically she's serving for her's, she was the one who made sure his ring actually ran and regularly abused the women as well.

But yeah, its hard to believe that wouldn't have come up at some point.

Well I suppose that's true. Still it feels like something like this wouldn't need to be something you find out from an anonymous source on reddit.

Well its Occam's razor now isn't it?

There are two possibilities: either we assume these people are so powerful and competent that they were able to pull off the nigh impossible of managing to break into a federal prison, past numerous guards, cameras and computer controlled doors into the most restricted area, and kill a grown man in a way that left no marks anywhere on his body that weren't inconsistent with him hanging himself, and then manage to get out without leaving any evidence whatsoever they were there, after doing all of this on the mere possibility that Epstein would blab despite up to this point showing no signs of it whatsoever (and that if he did, he'd also somehow be able to prove it).

Or we assume no one broke in, and the old narcissistic paedophile who had spent the last forty years living like a king and was now stuck in an abysmal prison, knowing he had nothing to look forward to but a miserable life inside with everyone knowing he was an utter failure, who'd tried to kill themselves a mere month previously and only just gotten off suicide watch, decided he'd rather take the cowards way out.

Well when you lay it all out, you have to admit one sounds a lot more plausible, doesn't it?

Considering it would probably have gotten a lot more publicity with everything else, I'm going to assume its a conspiracy theory.

Yeah, I'd recommend reading a few reports of what goes on in other prisons in America and then tell me what you think about gross negligence in underfunded, uncaring institutions.

I think so. And your right its more a meme than anything else.

Nah there is no rule. It doesn't matter when the evidence comes out.

I'm just saying after all this time, with literally the whole world focused on this case, no one's found anything. Doesn't that imply there isn't anything to find?

>So there was a film of his cell? (Camera was reported broken)

No. Their were no cameras in his cell or any of the cells, cause the prison doesn't put cameras in the cells. There were cameras outside in the hallway. Three of them turned out to be broken (one was technically working, but the footage was in such poor quality it was deemed effectively useless), but the rest were fine (including the one's watching the enterance), and the footage of all of them has been examined.

Likewise in the 2015 review of the prison, it was discovered that up 15% of the cameras throughout the prison were not working and a large number of other were in poor quality, and said prison has since been shut down for repairs as the conditions inside have become to intolerable even for an American prison.

The idea that the film of him miraculously broke right before he died was a joke that started on twitter.

>And the guards were awake and watching him? (They testified they were asleep)

Nope. They were supposed to check in on him every thirty minutes as he had recently been taken off suicide watch (due to him trying to slit his own throat). But cause they were working 20 hour shifts all week for minimum wage, they decided to take a nap rather than babysit a rich paedophile.

They then faked the logs after they found he died to try to get the heat off. But the camera's footage confirmed they lied so they were caught, admitted to falsifying the logs and they've since been fired.

>And Bill Barr never visited the prison? (He did).

Never heard about that one, so I can't comment. If he did, then I guess there is perhaps one thing suspicious that hasn't turned out to be untrue, but that's pretty much it.

>It’s unfortunate credible victims flip.

She's never flipped. She's still carrying on telling everyone who will listen that he raped her.

Her accepting the money out of court doesn't mean she got a hush payment.

Sure it can. But that was never going to happen in this particular trial. Everyone involved knew that from the start, including Virginia Giuffries.

Even if Andrew had testified it wouldn't have mattered, it not being a criminal trial their is no chance of perjury charges even if he was proven to be lying.

Unfortunately everything they could prove he'd done, simply wasn't illegal either in New York or in Britain.

Eh we'll see.

Eh we'll see.

Eh we'll see.

Eh, he probably did.

After three years no one's been able to find any real evidence to suggest he didn't and most of the original evidence that is repeated turned out to be untrue.

>Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.

Reading through everything, he probably did.

Nearly everything they've been able to claim was suspicious turned out to have pretty mundane explanations. Most along the lines that underfunded American prisons are utterly awful.

It was a civil trial, not a criminal one.

The only outcome if she had won, was that she got the money.

Why the heck shouldn't she accept the payment if they were offering her what she was going to win in damages?

Why is that so hard to understand? People act like she took a bribe.

It happened three years afterwards, it had nothing to do with Epstein's death.

Andrew Winsor's lawyers just offered her enough money to agree cause he was clearly going to lose.

Damn, now that's a good code.

I could believe it. I'm pretty sure their was a case in the fifties of a news group that tried to hire mercenaries to invade a Caribbean island so they could report on it.

Oh no. This is tragic, she was so young. RIP to her and condolences to her family.