MYrobouros

MYrobouros t1_jbz03m2 wrote

Reply to comment by BlaiddDrwg82 in In Bellows Falls… by papalemingway

It's really gotten kind of nice I think. A few good consumer businesses for locals/passers by, a tidy downtown area, a solid thrift shop, I think the train station is better than most (not that that's saying much but still), I think Bellows Falls might qualify as cute these days.

I can't quite remember the slogan but I saw a T shirt that said something like "Bellows Falls: Not as Bad as You Heard"

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MYrobouros t1_j7p5pkl wrote

There's a great plan from the DHCD and the Congress for the New Urbanism. It aims to continue historical patterns in villages and towns with things like cottage courts, mid density multiuse areas, and accessory dwelling units.

VT won't be affordable without new housing, and specifically the right kind of new housing to help young new families and aging Vermonters be able to live here. I love my drafty old farmhouse but it's not the right house for most people in this state anymore and it probably never will be again.

https://www.cnu.org/vermont

A big part of our problem is with relatively recent zoning changes that require things like large minimum lots. That sounds like it preserves VT on its surface but the result is 1 house every 3 acres and no woods at all.

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MYrobouros t1_j36i2q2 wrote

I'll say this; VT has some of the most divergent levels of seasonal beauty out of anywhere I've been. So, come here when it's crappy out (March, November) and see if it speaks to you.

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MYrobouros t1_j26ielz wrote

Luckily I think we snuck in some really good stuff in the last legislative term right? Like, iirc by-right 4plex creation and 1/8 acre minimum lots if you're on town water and sewer? Or am I totally off base there?

Either way seeing our State work with the Congress for the New Urbanism was really encouraging. There's a way to keep an authentic Vermont that isn't unlivable and I think there's the will there if we just keep hope.

Well beans I think I was wrong here. Maybe this year!

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MYrobouros t1_iy5aatt wrote

I also feel that, often enough, the voters are left of the select board or the boards of various municipal institutions here, which is deeply frustrating. Or, not even always specifically left, so much as just further out. Like, I don't know that it's a lefty position to think that 3 acre minimum lots are bad/good policy, or what have you. And then you wonder why you get low voter turnout, and the answer has to be tied up in e.g. zoning and/or cannabis red tape.

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MYrobouros t1_iy46zot wrote

Yeah but that's a problem with local centrists too in my experience. Like, committed Dems are all of a sudden very tut-tut about speaking up for drag queens. My point being, there's already discourse, I guess, and I have a hard time believing it'll be better because some cooler heads just-asking-questions people show up.

But you're right. There's a narrow lane for cooperation and it becomes a tight rope for social issues (and impossible for good faith work on sex crimes.)

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MYrobouros t1_iy40orh wrote

This feels it's awfully similar to those Vermonters who just want "good government".

Also, not to be a VT exceptionalist, but why in God's name would I want a national organization to "help" with discourse in VT? This is like, practically the one place I can be friends with a conservative and he'll leave me alone except about local issues.

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