MrCertainly

MrCertainly t1_je3x2fv wrote

Looks pretty.

I've seen a LOT of these concept art renditions through the decades. Maybe I'm jaded, but I'll believe it when I see it actually happen.

Right now, the biggest problem is what the train station is meant for -- TRAIN SERVICE. We need more trains, we need more tunnels, we need more tracks, we need wider platforms, etc.

My 2 cents? I don't care if Penn Station looks like a soulless, utilitarian hellscape that's more artistically barren than a plain wall. As long as IT WORKS AS A TRAIN STATION. We can debate which open-air aesthetic we want to go with after we figure out the tough problems like capacity.

This train station was designed before the Wright Bros took to the sky, before the Model T reached popularity -- and it was intentionally overdesigned to anticipate 50+ years of expected growth. And then they tore the entire above-ground structure down around the time we sent mankind to the moon. And kept using the service for longer and longer -- so much that the "maximum" the original designers intended would be considered a slow day today.

We are at the maximum capacity the current system allows. We literally cannot fit more trains in the station. We literally cannot fit more trains in the tunnels. The trains themselves are bursting at the seams during rush hour. We have very real problems like tunnel degradation due to Sandy.

This concept art is just a fresh coat of paint. It adds nothing meaningful to solve the very real problems of the last 40-50 years of growth and deferred maintenance, let alone plannning for the next 40-50 years.

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MrCertainly t1_j6cd1ty wrote

Full agreement. It's boogeyman bullshit, and they should get slapped in the face with a trout for peddling such fearmongering fucking lies.

I've used a Maytag-variant washer *my entire life. * like since I was a kid, and now I am on my own, I own a kirkland rebranded maytag. All center agitation. Old school mechanical kind.

I have clothes in my normal cycle that I've been wearing for the better part of 25 years. Some of the elastic has gone bad, and I absolutely have worn a few of the cheaper tshirts thin. But nothing unexpected for a 25 year old shirt worn about once every 2 weeks.

You know what is rough on clothes? These new front loaders that try to wash three pairs of jeans with two cups of water.

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