Submitted by OtherwiseCricket8982 t3_11b2clj in Connecticut
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OtherwiseCricket8982 t1_j9v0vnd wrote
Reply to comment by KevKevThePug in I hated the film 'Nope' by jonah_wilkie
If we had to take generalizations of football fans and fans of "cinema that asks a lot of the viewer", I think the crossover is at a minimum. I have no real way of confirming this, besides maybe pointing to ask if there's a single movie about football that is also demanding of the audience in this way? There's something almost academic in nature about those ambiguous and thematic types of films. Typically hardcore academia and sports viewership don't have a huge crossover. It's a generalization, and there's tons of outliers, but I would put money on that being the case most of the time. Especially since most people, even non sports viewers, don't really love ambiguous thematic films, which could explain why Nope has a significantly lower audience score than user score. Basically: the average football fan isn't also a film snob.
I agree that calling OP out based on his post history is ludicrous though.
OtherwiseCricket8982 t1_j9uzsyr wrote
Reply to comment by Positive-Source8205 in I hated the film 'Nope' by jonah_wilkie
I find it so interesting just how split audiences were on this film. Just curious, what types of movies do you usually gravitate towards?
OtherwiseCricket8982 t1_j9uzo85 wrote
Reply to comment by Rayliex in I hated the film 'Nope' by jonah_wilkie
nothing is more frustrating than having a parent nonstop not understand the movies you like lol. My mom watched Everything Everywhere All At Once and was ranting about how long it was, how empty the film was of rich meaning. I'm like...damn were we watching the same movie!?
OtherwiseCricket8982 t1_j9uzg31 wrote
Reply to comment by PrecisionHat in I hated the film 'Nope' by jonah_wilkie
>I think it's bad when a film explains everything about those kind of elements
Totally, unless the entire point of the film is to set up a larger universe, like Star Trek or Lord Of The Rings. I would argue that Get Out more closely resembles a classic horror/drama film though.
OtherwiseCricket8982 t1_j9uz2dp wrote
Reply to comment by DaikaijuSokogeki01 in I hated the film 'Nope' by jonah_wilkie
I don't think so at all. Certain audiences have always hated slightly ambiguous, theme/symbol priority type media. Look at 2001 A Space Odyssey, that got really mixed reviews when it first came out in '68. Some folks hated it!
OtherwiseCricket8982 t1_j9uyp0b wrote
Reply to I hated the film 'Nope' by jonah_wilkie
Plenty of people didn't like it. It's a film that puts more stock in what it's trying to say through symbols and themes than telling a classic hollywood story. I'm guessing you don't consume a lot of ambiguous media, like Neon Genesis Evangelion? I get why you feel the way you do, but its also probably a sign that movies like this aren't for you.
OtherwiseCricket8982 t1_j9v33id wrote
Reply to comment by Positive-Source8205 in I hated the film 'Nope' by jonah_wilkie
Surely everyone likes "good" movies, it's just highly subjective what that means. I agree that Signs is similar in that it doesn't explain a ton about the alien. But it's also way more obsessed with telling a story clearly than breaking from film conventions and focusing more on the allegory. I think Us did this too, but imo Nope was more successful in how it did it.
What i'm trying to get at is, and i'm just curious, are there any movies you like that don't explain their plot entirely? Neon Genesis? Tree of Life? Even Perfect Blue gets pretty out there.