I think the appeal of BB and Sopranos is the inherent humanity to all the characters. Yes they do unspeakably horrible things. But they’re real people. There’s a little bit of Tony and Walt in all of us. Yes Tony is a mob boss, but the writers wrote him in such a human way that you can empathize with him sometimes. I’ve watched the Sopranos so many times now that I’ve begun to hate Tony. Not for the crime and all that, but the bullshitter that he is. He’s such a narcissist. He constantly lies, he manipulates people, he’s an addict, he’s a horrible father, he’s someone that I know irl. Walt is us.

In the opposite direction comes Walt. He’s us, he represents our wants and desires to be something of substance and meaning. He doesn’t want to be ineffectual and forgotten. Even if that something is terrible. He’s cruel because he’s lives a mediocre life despite his intellect. He sees others around him like Gretchen, who were successful, and he resents them. He resents people at home too because he’s stuck with them and their mundanities. He also suffers from pride. He wants to be successful on his own terms. Whether it’s the way he pays for his cancer treatment or cooks meth. He’s been nothing but a cog to other people’s success and he can’t stand it. That’s why at the end he tells Skylar he did it for himself.

I’ve watched bits and pieces of Lost and Dexter. They’re not comparable shows. They’re too far out in fantasy. The characters are “perfect.” Their flaws are superficial or typical. Many people have suffered a mother and father like Tony’s, or lived with a wife like Skylar, or had lived lives like Walt prior to his explosion in living. Dexter plays on a fantasy. It’s goofy and unrealistic.he sleeps with his sister, he’s a forensic scientist who catches killers and kills them. Lost takes place in the afterlife. It’s all very whimsical, not grounded in reality at all.

At least, that’s why I think Sopranos and BB will always be relevant. While the other two, and many others, will fall into obscurity. It’s the same reason Seinfeld is still comedically relevant. It’s taking reality, adding a little extremism to it (observational comedy, a mob setting, a a man who cooks crystal meth) and it blows things out of proportion while still honing in on the human element.

You’re not very good at trolling tbh.

Is that what you call that?

Oh no… you called me names! How will that disprove my point?! 😧

Imagine having a load of shit for brains? Lol

Yes, because the likelihood that a white person commits a hate crime is less than a black person. Statistics matter.

It’s like you don’t understand statistics. In this case, it’s the opposite. The greater the representation of race per hate crime = more exposure. More black people are committing hate crimes than whites via population. More offenders do not equal more exposure.

And there are black and Hispanic people in every state that attack one another over racial differences, attack themselves (Dominicans vs PR’s for instance), attack other races (Asians predominantly), etc.

In 2021, total hate crimes committed amounted to 8673 reported cases. 56.1% (4865.55) were white offenders. 21.3% (1847.34) were black offenders.

Those white offenders accounted for .002% of the 2021 white population. The black offenders accounted for .005% of the black population. Statistically, you are more likely to have a hate crime committed against you than a white person.

Black people per population commit more hate crimes than whites. Shocker…

Source

Just because they’re a smaller percentage doesn’t mean they can’t commit an equal amount or more hate crimes…

Do you understand how statistics work?

>it simple wouldnt make sense to use black criminals (racists) as the face of hate crime in America

And there it is lol you said the quiet part out loud haha holy fuck.

Just as most white Americans don’t commit hate crimes. Yet, let’s not pretend the narratives don’t say otherwise.

It would make sense if both blacks and whites were held to the same standard. I have seen black people do horrible things to Asian people. Most if bot all of the hate crimes committed against Asian Americans during the pandemic were done by blacks or Hispanics.

That doesn’t counter anything. You just said words lol

That’s your own projection. You think because you don’t think of puerto ricans and Dominicans when you hear the black descriptor doesn’t mean others don’t either.

Nah because black is a skin color, not an ethnicity. So point stands.

I mean, my point is standing fine lmao thats why its got 64 upvotes.

They got nothing to go against my point so they gotta resort to other tactics lmao

Perfectly fine tbh, it still doesn’t disprove that the media ignores a lot of black hate crime and emphasizes white hate crime.

Because his skin is black, stupid.

I think we have a pretty good idea

Yea, let’s just ignore the perpetrators of the antisemitism. Wouldn’t want to be able to identify them, now, would we?

Source for pics of suspect?

Lol you mean asking you to explain your accusations is me playing dumb?

What ignorant bullshit?

In what way?

Right over your head

But we do, and therefore we can.

We’re talking skin tone here, not other physical characteristics.

So you agree with the principle in this thread but dislike that I was honest about how all Americans use radicalized language, which you admitted to doing as well, proving my point.

But decided to bring up a point I made in another thread?

I think you’re dishonest with yourself about how you feel, especially based off what you’ve said in this thread. Now address this comment you made days ago in a completely unrelated thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/10k4cay/gavin_newsom_after_monterey_park_shooting_second/j5pqbig/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

What an idiot.

What racism?