Redbanabandana
Redbanabandana t1_iu73bkq wrote
Reply to comment by Prometheus720 in (Canada) House of Commons unanimously agrees to describe residential schools as genocide by EdithDich
Yeah, no. Residential schools are to genocide as manslaughter is to murder. Two different bad things.
Redbanabandana t1_iu72y0n wrote
Reply to comment by Prometheus720 in (Canada) House of Commons unanimously agrees to describe residential schools as genocide by EdithDich
Was I supposed to provide an exhaustive list of all genocides?
Redbanabandana t1_iu6hex5 wrote
Reply to comment by Prometheus720 in (Canada) House of Commons unanimously agrees to describe residential schools as genocide by EdithDich
If you think residential schools is on the same level as Holocaust and Apartheid, I don't know what to tell you. It must be confusing at the store when $1 and $2,000 is the same to you.
>Though many deaths were due to disease which nobody (at first) intentionally spread, make no mistake that there was a genocide across the entire Americas. People came to the Americas and killed, directly or indirectly, millions of its inhabitants. That's genocide.
Why would Canada even acknowledge anything that happened before Canada even existed?
Redbanabandana t1_iu5kcaz wrote
Reply to comment by Cherios_Are_My_Shit in (Canada) House of Commons unanimously agrees to describe residential schools as genocide by EdithDich
Putting cultural genocide on the same level as genocide is like saying an unwanted kiss on the cheek is the same as being forcibly penetrated by a chainsaw
>The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part.
The bolded part is pretty important.
>destruction of language or literature, banning of clothing or foods, rules against public congregation have all been ruled genocide by the UN.
Oh, like during the pandemic? TIL I was genocided according to the UN
BTW, the convention linked in the article makes no mention of cultural genocide or what that could mean so...
Redbanabandana t1_iu4tp7a wrote
Reply to comment by xyon21 in (Canada) House of Commons unanimously agrees to describe residential schools as genocide by EdithDich
> Cultural genocide is still genocide
By name, not by definition
Redbanabandana t1_iu4pz6u wrote
Reply to comment by Cherios_Are_My_Shit in (Canada) House of Commons unanimously agrees to describe residential schools as genocide by EdithDich
Residential schools: up to around 4,100 deaths over 120 years with most happening before 1950's and mostly from things like lack of care, disease outbreaks (typhoid and tuberculosis) and fires. This represents about 5% of the people that attended the residential schools. The intent of those schools were to assimilate the children into western culture (presumably alive).
Holocaust: 6 million deaths over 4 years by systematic mass murders through nerve gas, combustion chambers and executions. The intent was to kill all Jews. Up to two thirds of the entire Europeen population of Jews were murdered.
People downvoting facts they don't like, lol
Redbanabandana t1_iu4pizd wrote
Reply to comment by Vannilazero in (Canada) House of Commons unanimously agrees to describe residential schools as genocide by EdithDich
Most deaths happened before the 1950's and were because of typhoid fever and turberculosis outbreaks and fires.
Redbanabandana t1_iu4ozy9 wrote
Reply to comment by EdithDich in (Canada) House of Commons unanimously agrees to describe residential schools as genocide by EdithDich
>schools preceded* (and outlasted) the Holocaust by a century. *and to some degree inspired.
What happened with residential schools is a tragedy and an horror but let us not redefine words to suit political/social trends. That you are even comparing residential schools with the holocaust and saying the latter was inspired by the former is ridiculous. Especially considering that the first residential school mass graves were found in the 1970s.
Genocide implies systematic and deliberate killing with the aim of destroying a race or nation. Was that the intent of the residential schools (no)? Were the death the results of murder or was it a result of lack of resources, lack of care and individuals in position of power (e.g., headmasters and priests) acting of their own volition? When and over what time period did the deaths happen?
Residential schools deaths: up to around 4,100 over 120 years mostly from things like lack of care, disease outbreaks (typhoid and tuberculosis) and fires. This represents about 5% of the people that attended the residential schools. The intent of those schools were to assimilate the children into western culture (presumably alive).
Holocaust: 6 million deaths over 4 years by systematic mass murders through nerve gas, combustion chambers and executions. The intent was to kill all Jews. Up to two thirds of the Europeen population of Jews were murdered.
Redbanabandana t1_iu74jxq wrote
Reply to comment by Prometheus720 in (Canada) House of Commons unanimously agrees to describe residential schools as genocide by EdithDich
>the fundamental life skills of defining things and using categories.
No shit, use one category for intentional mass murder like the holocaust and another category for unintentional mass deaths related to lack of ressources/negligence like the residential school system. They shouldn't be in the same category because they aren't the same.
How ironic that you're saying other people suck at categorizing things, lol