SeanHaz

SeanHaz t1_j9q19i9 wrote

You seem to be complaining about the quality and cost of healthcare. Unfortunately you can't have both.

I understand that you don't want people to choose between bankruptcy and death but that doesn't make universal healthcare a good idea. It will solve some problems and cause others. It's a really complicated issue and having seen what public healthcare looks like in a wealthy country I get the impression that privatisation is the way to go. You seem to have the opposite impression. To me this just shows that both systems suck and completely overhauling something which sucks for something else that sucks may not be wise.

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SeanHaz t1_j9phsxg wrote

If you increase the cost we can't afford it, if you keep the cost the way it is we'll have the same problems.

I'm not saying it should be ruled out because it's not perfect, I think it should be ruled out because it is worse than your current system.

It has "worked" in Ireland for decades, it has also"worked" in the US for decades...to me it isn't obvious the public system is better. I know the USA had the most ventilators compared to its population which helped save a lot of lives during COVID, it's more expensive but you get what you pay for.

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SeanHaz t1_j9pdckz wrote

I'm not so sure. I live somewhere with public healthcare and it is accomplished by giving employees less money (doctors nurses etc.). Since we're paying doctors less money many qualified doctors leave the country for places which pay more. Since we have a shortage of doctors and nurses the waiting times are long, we have many deaths due to long waiting times.

They also put a lot of money towards things which help their stats rather than things which improve quality of life for people eg. Keeping elderly people barely alive while they're bed bound for years to improve life expectancy.

I'm from Ireland and I'm familiar with the UK, it seems both have the same problems. We are one of the wealthiest countries in the world and this is the situation, I imagine the situation would be even worse in poorer countries.

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