Sovreign_grounds

Sovreign_grounds t1_j6p45m3 wrote

>This might seem like a contradiction, as anti-gun people don't own firearms,

False, people who want gun control own firearms. 71% of Americans want stricter gun control. There is huge overlap there, but owning a firearm doesn't mean that you want to continue seeing children die in school shootings. Many people are willing to give that up, like they have successfully in other countries.

>but the reality is that they're wealthy enough to simply outsource their violence rather than carry it out themselves,

Democrats represent the least wealthy demographics.

>and their virtue comes from that degree of separation between themselves and the poor or disenfranchised they suppress.

The least wealthy communities are the ones most harmed by gun violence.

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Sovreign_grounds t1_j6p0dlu wrote

We banned alcohol in the 20s, it didn't take. Other countries have banned guns today, it takes pretty fucking well.

You can't just mix some fruit juice and yeast to make a gun. Guns don't just "happen" by accident from leaving some fruit juice in your cellar for too long.

Alcohol is social lubricant that has been around for thousands of years. Firearms are literally made for one purpose, to destroy things.

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Sovreign_grounds t1_j6ovgks wrote

The fuck are you talking about? You think some random offhand statements about the exact capabilities means that the government as a monolith don't understand that guns are deadly?

Firearms are deadly. All of them. Never point a gun at something you don't intend to destroy.

Again, firearms are the leading cause of death among children and teens in America.

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Sovreign_grounds t1_j6otzhy wrote

What lies? That guns are the leading cause of death among children and teens? Or how about if you take out homicides related to firearms the US is exponentially closer to the homicide rate of the European countries that have restricted access to firearms?

European countries average around 1 homicide per 100k population, the US currently averages around 5 per 100k population, and without firearms the US would be down around 2 homicides per 100k population.

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Sovreign_grounds t1_j6os0gk wrote

Other first world countries have relatively fixed the gun violence issue. Get rid of guns.

The UK hasn't had a school shooting since the dunblane massacre in 1996, when they decided children's lives were not worth people owning firearms.

They have less than 1/5 of the homicide rate as the US.

We can fix this issue, any excuses given are... well just that, excuses.

People aren't pro gun. They are pro school shootings.

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