That wasn't entirely what he was saying though. Obese people usually come from obese environments, and so it is with other stuff. I need to read up on the science again, but commercials doing their best to make eating shit look great is definitely a thing.

What if you could pay to simply avoid that. In the Netherlands we've opened up the gambling market and with that came a flurry of gambling advertisements. And lo and behold we suddenly have a lot more people addicted to gambling, so now the ads are getting axed by 2025 or something.

Food works through the same mechanisms, as did smoking.

N=1 here, but if I watch the food channel or things like our version the great British bake off I find myself craving "comfort food"(diabetes on a fork). I've rid my life completely from that and have found a couple communities that actually are about that healthy lifestyle and am doing much better now. From 110 to 80 kg's on 1.87m. Avoiding exposure has made that process infinitely more easy to do for me.

Now imagine you could tailor social media to do that for you. Maybe you already can btw, simply by using the current algorithms to look for healthfood etc.

I find it impossible not too. There's plenty of positive stuff to read, but the main thing keeping me going is that the other options are even less appetizing. There's the shrug and move on to see what happens-option. There's the roll up in a ball waiting for impending doom-option. Then I'd rather find big and small ways to make myself useful combatting the greenhouse-effect.

Eating and consuming less for me are good starting points. Insulating and electrifying the home. Being more mindful of what I still consume. Voting, pressuring politicians sharing opinions etc. etc.

I'm just an ickle wee man myself so I can't do as much as a billionaire could, but I can try to do my part.

And that's with the same pace, who knows what'll be invented by then.

Always starts small though, doesn't it? If it grows by 4x times every 2 years for the foreseeable future, where are we in say 10 years?

Also true. And if they didn't early in the millennium the start of the invasion of Ukraine should've tipped them off. Or the Georgian invasion before that. We've made ourselves a play-thing for these despots.

Putin's gas is a bigger driver of change, but it did rear some heads how reliant we've made ourselves on despotic regimes that don't necessarily have our best interests at heart. So there's been a perception-change with regards to oil too. Especially when OPEC is jacking up the prices by lowering production.

Yeah, it's still a leap to go to completely renewable energy. I've fallen into that trap as well in the past. Oh, 100% renewable electricity is near, that's problem solved then. But then someone pointed out that energy =/= electricity.

Some upsides though, even a legacy carmaker like Mercedes thinks in 2025 we'll have price parity between EV and ICE-cars. In Europe there's a massive push to heating our homes with heat-pumps, I think I can get 30% or something like that back from my government on the purchase of one. New houses here aren't even connected to the gas-grid anymore. We've got incentives for all sorts of insulation too.

My countries government aims for a sort of double or triple punch where you get your house insulated to the point where you can heat it with a heat-pump and on top of that you feed your heat-pump with solar energy if possible.

I think at the moment where I live industry is the biggest challenge with regards to them going green.

We don't really have similar parking lots here in Europe as opposed to America. But there's plenty of space on rooftops of all sorts of buildings. My municipality? built a solar park out in some space that was previously used for farming and is reaping benefits from it. But with just a bit more effort it could've been placed atop existing buildings there were a number of big buildings nearby even that could've supported it.

Everything that's built new should have rooftop solar incorporated in the design anyway imo. Our administrative building for the municipality is getting plastered with solar on top of getting a new insulating roof btw in the very near future. I think it might be happening atm.

Ooh, this opens the door for a discussion for those who actually believe in gods and miracles and those who don't. As someone that doesn't believe in a particular god I don't really believe in miracles either. Not in the biblical or fantasy sense of the word. I've got no problem with calling something a miracle if it's something unexpected though. Even if I don't believe in them.