But they CAN be. Most people like that live in an echo chamber of crazy (that link is just nuts). It's no different than here on reddit. Once someone is not judged for their opinion, they can have a conversation. Once judgment or insults enter the chat, people dig in. At that point, you won't be able to convince them of anything at all. Well, that's my experience anyway. Thanks for the response.

>IMO, we need to differentiate laypeople people who went unvaccinated from those who made spreading antivax propaganda their political or financial mission

Yup! These people are to blame for some unnecessary suffering. These people are shameless. The punishment should be financial. Thats where they feel it.

Gotta love reditt for some downvoted rational opinions. 🤣

And that was totally reasonable in the beginning! Now, yeah, the research is there.

I think calling antivaxxers names is a terrible way to open a dialogue where someone could be informed or swayed on their opinion. I have some seriously smart friends (highly educated at the PhD and MD level) who are also "antivaxxers" when it came to covid. Fear, irrational or rational, is a very powerful emotion to overcome. Assuming they are stupid will close any door to conversation you hope to open. So, yes, the information we currently have now is excellent and if you have no contraindications, likely safe. The information/disinformation we had in the beginning was a huge pain to filter through.