Turtley13
Turtley13 t1_itqvs9k wrote
Reply to comment by vlsdo in [OC] Climbing Accidents in North American Climbing by chnetka
Not necessarily. You can be 'taking' on a piece or using it as an anchor.
Turtley13 t1_itqo194 wrote
Reply to comment by vlsdo in [OC] Climbing Accidents in North American Climbing by chnetka
Have to think about it in terms of Main cause and secondary.
Turtley13 t1_itqnzas wrote
Reply to comment by gibson_se in [OC] Climbing Accidents in North American Climbing by chnetka
Exactly. Not many people are going to be taking out ropes that are on the verge of breaking without something happening before. When they do it's going to happen when taking a fall.
Turtley13 t1_itqnsig wrote
Reply to comment by Avg_reddit_user6969 in [OC] Climbing Accidents in North American Climbing by chnetka
You have to think of equipment failure as a MAIN cause.
For example a typical failure may be on a quick draw. That draw is only going to break once there is a big load on it. So would happen during a fall. It would then be categorized as a secondary cause.
Turtley13 t1_itqem68 wrote
Reply to comment by well_balanced in [OC] Climbing Accidents in North American Climbing by chnetka
How have you always known? Do you have an actual source of data which says the opposite?
Turtley13 t1_itr62js wrote
Reply to comment by binz17 in [OC] Climbing Accidents in North American Climbing by chnetka
Think about it this way. I'll give you examples.
Scenario 1
Climber falls while leading and his last draw breaks (equipment failure). Get's injured. MAIN cause FALL, SECONDARY EQUIP FAILURE
Scenario 1 doesn't occur if the person doesn't fall.
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Scenario 2
Climber takes a take and loads his draw. It breaks (equipment failure).
Main cause is equipment failure.
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See the difference?