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Velociraptortillas t1_ivebq40 wrote
Reply to comment by jiimmyyy in Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3
Sure!
Here's a fact:
It is raining.
SO
I ought to wear galoshes.
OR
I ought to take my shoes off and jump in puddles.
OR
Who cares? I'm not changing my routine.
One fact, three entirely opposing decisions. Facts may have bearing on decisions, they do not dictate them. In the first two cases, the fact informs two opposite decisions - keep your feet dry, go jump in puddles. In the third case, the fact exists, but holds no influence and in this way, is the opposite of the first two decisions.
Velociraptortillas t1_ivcxjtc wrote
Reply to comment by JohannesdeStrepitu in Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3
Do his beliefs w/r/t Liberalism differ from the norm in any great respect?
He's a philosopher, and extremely bright, so his explication of those beliefs is definitely more nuanced than say, a layperson's, but the beliefs themselves do not depart from bog-standard Liberalism. His defenses of various subjects all come from an extremely (nay, extremist) brand of individualism, which is endemic to Liberalism as a whole.
Edit: Scientism isn't orthogonal to Liberalism. It's usually used (badly, imo) as a defense of it.
Velociraptortillas t1_ivcuggt wrote
Reply to comment by JohannesdeStrepitu in Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3
Uhhh... Because he is a Philosophical Liberal? Has he suddenly abandoned Kant, Rawls, or more likely, Nozick? Is he somehow against Capitalism, of which Philosophical Liberalism is the defense?
No. He is not. He's a Transactionalist to the core - He's staunchly for these things. To the level of ranting against their opposite. His entire oeuvre is a defense of 'Individualism'.
Velociraptortillas t1_ivbtu3w wrote
Reply to comment by jiimmyyy in Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3
You're not. That's not where the divide exists.
Is are facts.
Ought are decisions, or intentions if you like.
They are not the same thing at all.
Facts, naturally, may inform decisions, but they do not and cannot dictate them.
Velociraptortillas t1_ivay1qp wrote
Reply to comment by eliyah23rd in Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3
Here's an example of 'if it's right for you, it's right for everyone' failing.
In an industrialized society, near-unlimited access to water is frequently (and correctly) considered a human right.
In a nomadic society in a dry climate, it almost definitely should not be.
Velociraptortillas t1_ivavguc wrote
Reply to Michael Shermer argues that science can determine many of our moral values. Morality is aimed at protecting certain human desires, like avoidance of harm (e.g. torture, slavery). Science helps us determine what these desires are and how to best achieve them. by Ma3Ke4Li3
Is/Ought Divide has entered the chat.
Why, oh why is he still on this? It was terrible when he proposed it years ago and that hasn't changed. What is it about Philosophical Liberalism that gives people the Brain Worms?
Velociraptortillas t1_j1zdzd3 wrote
Reply to Crypto and blockchain are not the technology of the future – prove me wrong. by Aquillyne
I work at a US Government agency that deals with Crypto-crime. Yeah, we're as busy as you might suspect.
Blockchain is a distributed database. That's it. That's ALL it is. Distributed databases have been around for decades.
Now, the problem with crypto's particular implementation of a distributed db (aside from the energy requirements even with PoS systems) is that it handles concurrency LIKE. TOTAL. SHIT.
A real distributed financial DB, say for an institution with locations in LA and NY, has entire clusters of extremely beefy servers in both locations and a fiber line dedicated just and only to it (multiple, actually). The servers are clocked to within millionths of a second or better, and take into account things like elevation and the mass underneath (basically, just like GPS satellites take those things into account), so that they go out of sync by one second per longer than the human race has been or will be around.
They do this so that if two transactions hit the same account on opposite sides of the country, there's very little chance of a timing collision.
Now, take that database, put it on a typical virus-infested home PC, where it's perfectly happy being five entire minutes out of sync with everything else, the owner loves playing LoL or Dota2, leaving precious few cycles available for anything else and do the following:
It'll "work" as long as volume is low. As volume goes up, computing requirements go WAY UP, concurrency becomes a huge problem - we're not talking about your personal bank account anymore, but something on the order of Capital One's accounts, with thousands of transactions per second. You want Crypto to replace Wall St.? With a bunch of SETI@home PCs?
BWAHAHAHAH, no. It can't handle that sort of volume without imploding LONG before you approach even a meaningful percentage of what the Street handles.