Vermaxx

Vermaxx t1_jdtvbff wrote

Unless you're colloquially referring to "jail" as "prison," then no. Civil disobedience results in misdemeanor charges. Obstructing roadways, attacking people, using violence or property destruction are all possible avenues for FELONIES, which can lead to prison. Committing felonious acts for shock value to cause political change is one definition of terrorism.

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Vermaxx t1_jdte468 wrote

How does one pressure the new world power once that nation takes control? China will never have to cooperate because they either stay second rate (and we won't invade) or they supplant the west (and we won't invade).

You're a zealot. If I'm not saying anything values then stop tagging me. I know I can't convince you you're wrong, because you fully believe the world will end soon. I've heard them say the world is ending soon for thirty years. The only thing that changes is the reason and the date... but no missed dates ever force an admission that things aren't as dire as claimed. The warnings just get more dire and the demands get more extreme.

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Vermaxx t1_jdnwe4w wrote

Name a single up and coming world power that had ever settled for second best. Name one that didn't use violence once their competitor collapsed economically. I really don't understand this China apologist crap. They're humans, run by an authoritarian regime. The only goal is more power, not peaceful stagnation.

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Vermaxx t1_jdn0lob wrote

There's a lot of "protest" actions that absolutely should be illegal, for the exact reasons we see things escalate when those laws are ignored.

If nothing is illegal, nothing is risked, and nothing is gained. The civil rights movement succeeded because of public outcry to the biased enforcement... and martyrdom.

Right now climate activism lacks martyrs.

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Vermaxx t1_jdlp6wq wrote

But sure let's say I did this math right. China has a quotient of 0.01917 per pop, the entire rest of my example is 0.01051 per pop. And that's everyone together, not singling out Britain.

Correct. Every single person in China doubles the average of everyone in USA, EU and India. This isn't actually realistic though because massive portions of China's population are still backwater rural people. It means China's megacities are the most carbon polluting sources on earth.

I still don't see how protestors in Britain take themselves seriously. Even in the US it's laughable.

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Vermaxx t1_jdl4hzi wrote

As of 2019, the full EU was 6.4% of ghg. The US was 11. China was 27%. China is more than the USA plus EU plus India. You can almost fit in Indonesia too.

Protestors risking criminal charges to fight a system that at best would barely slow world collapse even if it fully ended TODAY, in a reality where Biden says we'd need "at least" another decade, deserve to be prosecuted.

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