Vermaxx
Vermaxx t1_jdty76m wrote
Reply to comment by ohheyisayokay in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
How does someone go to prison if they're not charged with a crime? The sign says "no prison." I'd expect prosecutors to know what level of charges they're vacating and be technically precise. Ergo, they're not planning on sticking to misdemeanor charges, they plan on excusing felonies.
Vermaxx t1_jdtvbff wrote
Reply to comment by ohheyisayokay in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
Unless you're colloquially referring to "jail" as "prison," then no. Civil disobedience results in misdemeanor charges. Obstructing roadways, attacking people, using violence or property destruction are all possible avenues for FELONIES, which can lead to prison. Committing felonious acts for shock value to cause political change is one definition of terrorism.
Vermaxx t1_jdteg52 wrote
Reply to comment by ohheyisayokay in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
Let's also talk about the fact that "peaceful protest" doesn't lead to prison. Rioting and property destruction do. These attorneys are defending terrorism.
Vermaxx t1_jdte468 wrote
Reply to comment by ohheyisayokay in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
How does one pressure the new world power once that nation takes control? China will never have to cooperate because they either stay second rate (and we won't invade) or they supplant the west (and we won't invade).
You're a zealot. If I'm not saying anything values then stop tagging me. I know I can't convince you you're wrong, because you fully believe the world will end soon. I've heard them say the world is ending soon for thirty years. The only thing that changes is the reason and the date... but no missed dates ever force an admission that things aren't as dire as claimed. The warnings just get more dire and the demands get more extreme.
Vermaxx t1_jdqo7ew wrote
Reply to comment by ohheyisayokay in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
Demanding it cease 100% to economic AND military detriment, in the face of an expansionist and belligerent competitor who won't ever stop, that is crazy.
Vermaxx t1_jdnwe4w wrote
Reply to comment by Sepof in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
Name a single up and coming world power that had ever settled for second best. Name one that didn't use violence once their competitor collapsed economically. I really don't understand this China apologist crap. They're humans, run by an authoritarian regime. The only goal is more power, not peaceful stagnation.
Vermaxx t1_jdn0qhj wrote
Reply to comment by nataliepineapple in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
Hahahahaha you found a way to ignore inconvenient statistics. You win. I support the elimination of ghg in Britain.
Vermaxx t1_jdn0lob wrote
Reply to comment by nataliepineapple in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
There's a lot of "protest" actions that absolutely should be illegal, for the exact reasons we see things escalate when those laws are ignored.
If nothing is illegal, nothing is risked, and nothing is gained. The civil rights movement succeeded because of public outcry to the biased enforcement... and martyrdom.
Right now climate activism lacks martyrs.
Vermaxx t1_jdn09mk wrote
Reply to comment by Sepof in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
China NEVER WILL. Their goal is to supplant the west economically and then militarily. They're just watching us collapse ourselves.
Vermaxx t1_jdn05pw wrote
Reply to comment by Sepof in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
Reddit isn't anywhere near a real slice of humanity.
Vermaxx t1_jdlp6wq wrote
Reply to comment by birnabear in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
But sure let's say I did this math right. China has a quotient of 0.01917 per pop, the entire rest of my example is 0.01051 per pop. And that's everyone together, not singling out Britain.
Correct. Every single person in China doubles the average of everyone in USA, EU and India. This isn't actually realistic though because massive portions of China's population are still backwater rural people. It means China's megacities are the most carbon polluting sources on earth.
I still don't see how protestors in Britain take themselves seriously. Even in the US it's laughable.
Vermaxx t1_jdlino1 wrote
Reply to comment by ohheyisayokay in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
What exactly do you think the incredibly small amount Britain contributes matters? If you were talking about US activism, I'd accept that.
Britain is too small to help anything.
Vermaxx t1_jdlhni9 wrote
Reply to comment by birnabear in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
Why the fuck would per capita matter? They're MASSIVELY HIGHER THAN ALL OF THE DEVELOPED WORLD.
If you think Britain owes some kind of equity debt for carbon, fine. The British empire can fade into obscurity.
Vermaxx t1_jdl4hzi wrote
Reply to Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
As of 2019, the full EU was 6.4% of ghg. The US was 11. China was 27%. China is more than the USA plus EU plus India. You can almost fit in Indonesia too.
Protestors risking criminal charges to fight a system that at best would barely slow world collapse even if it fully ended TODAY, in a reality where Biden says we'd need "at least" another decade, deserve to be prosecuted.
Vermaxx t1_jdvripp wrote
Reply to comment by ohheyisayokay in Top lawyers defy bar to declare they will not prosecute peaceful climate protesters by je97
You don't have any legal tiers? Well that sounds terrible. You win, I agree. No prosecution for climate activists in Britain.