Waryur
Waryur OP t1_ja0xnum wrote
Reply to comment by Waryur in [WP] It is the beginning of the Age of Spacefare, and humans have made contact with alien life. But the humans don't realize, it's actually the beginning of the - Second - Age of Spacefare, they've been to this world before, and the aliens remember them. by Waryur
(evolution happens super fast on Zell, don't question the number fudge... if biology was realistic then the time passed would be way too long for the ship to still exist OR the piho would still just look like humans and story > perfect science)
Waryur OP t1_ja0wtf7 wrote
Reply to [WP] It is the beginning of the Age of Spacefare, and humans have made contact with alien life. But the humans don't realize, it's actually the beginning of the - Second - Age of Spacefare, they've been to this world before, and the aliens remember them. by Waryur
I was an Earth historian, so I was perplexed that I had been asked to investigate an archeological find on a different planet entirely. Humanity had gotten situated on this world known as Zelutov-B90 (my partner Joq kindly informed me most people here call it "Zell") and now we were spreading out our influence. In our way stand the "Piho", 9-foot-tall alien creatures. They're intelligent and no friends of ours. There have been attacks on the human settlements on Zell for as long as humans have been on Zell. I heard that when we brought a Piho's body back to Earth for scientists to analyze, it caused a massive stir: not only do the Piho look vaguely human (if you look past them being 9 feet tall and covered in thick black hair to block out UV), according to science they're so close to Earth mammals internally it all but proves the existence of a God or some other kind of intelligent designer.
Apparently the find I was to investigate was some kind of spacecraft. It didn't look like anything Earth could build and the Piho weren't advanced enough to have built it so the scientific community was pretty much sending in anyone with any credentials to try to unravel the mystery of the ship.
"First observation; it's small. Too small for Piho, they'd be bent over like we was in a house for dwarves. Second observation, this is very well kept. Why?" That was Joq. She spoke the Piho-Kan language and was our interpreter, besides that she was a scientist. We and the Piho had been able to negotiate an unstable peace but Zell rules are always have someone who knows the language, especially if you go snooping around.
I answered: "A long time ago on Earth, there were primitive tribes who saw the technology of the more advanced civilizations around them, and worshipped them as the work of gods. Maybe some alien crash-landed here and now to the Piho this is the Temple to the Sky God or something. Would explain why it's maintained as well as it is."
"I don't know. Seems far fetched." Joq looked around. "Hey, Hoz? Can you take a look at these symbols? They look like they might be writing. Can you read them?
I looked at the panel she was pointing at. "CONTROL" was written in an ancient script.
"Those are Roman runes. Used from the first to the 27th century, one of the longest lasting writing systems. This is definitely a human ship"
"27th century?" Joq repeated in disbelief. "That means this thing is-"
"- At least," I continued for her, "5000 years old. I can't believe it. I mean, I'd always heard stories about how people used to be able to fly in the stars eons ago but I figured it was just a myth. I mean, this is huge! This is tangible evidence of human space travel in the far past! We're going to be famous!" I excitedly began typing into my computer descriptions of the ship - its appearance, size, controls, any writing. No such ships existed on Earth; anything old and metal had long since been recycled into new things.
Joq too was stunned. "I mean I knew this thing was old but.... That means this thing is 5000 years old and kept in pristine condition - by aliens who don't even have airplanes. Maybe what you were saying is true. Maybe they do think this is a holy place. If that's the case then we would be the gods to them! But they hate us.. it makes no sense!"
"They figured out how to keep the generator working," I said as the lights came on in the ship. "Course there's no fuel so they're not going anywhere, but hey, maybe the computer works!"
"5000 years old and the computer works?"
"Hey, 27th century technology was actually better than ours. If anyone would have a 5000 year old computer work, it'd be humans 5000 years ago. Gotta give credit to these aliens, they're smart fellows."
The computer was slow to turn on, but it did in fact work. The interface was written all in the Roman runes like on the CONTROL panel. "If this is written in the language I think it is, I should be able to read it"
"Which language is that?" asked Joq. I answered her. "Standard Creole. It's a mix of 27th century English, Spanish and Chinese. Basically incomprehensible to us, but it was the language of the world back then. And...." I opened up a document on the computer "It looks like it is! This looks to be the Captain's log."
"Well, go on and tell me what it says!"
"Let's see... I haven't had to read this stuff for a while, my studies are mostly on the 20th century and earlier. 'Mi dem no go frai bak a mi dem waad' - we're not going back to our planet.... 'aas du dem no kan go sta mas" - the Earthlings can't go to space anymore." I continued reading. "It seems like whoever flew this ship had the misfortune of being on another planet at the time of the Great Collapse. Earth was a barren wasteland and sending a spaceship back would have just meant more people on that rock to suffer. So the crew of this ship were basically told to fend for themselves."
"Do we know what happened? Well actually, considering this thing is right in the middle of Piho country, I'd say they probably got killed for some 9 foot family's dinner."
"No, the logs mention no sign of sentient life. Plants, animals, but no Piho."
"Far cry from now, where if you walk 5 feet you'll trip on a Piho's sacred rock and they'll shoot you for it."
As Joq was saying this her face contorted. "Wait, can you say that last sentence in the log again? The one with "aas du?". I did. "sta...," joq pondered. "Is 'sta du dem'" correct Standard Creole?"
"Should be. Means something like space traveler if I understand the language correctly." As I was saying this I made the connection. "Wait, what do the Piho like to call humans?"
"When they don't say "yuman" they say "tagu ren". I always thought it just meant foreigner but that's why I asked about sta du! When you were reading that Creole I almost felt like I understood it. Shouldn't be possible, it's a mix of 3 5000 year old languages - but I had the crazy thought, it sounds JUST like Piho Kan - like, their language."
"So..."
"Sta du dem, tagu ren... Oh my God. How do you say person in Creole?"
"I'm rusty but I think it's pipo. From the Ancient English world peo-"
"PIHO! PIHO IS PIPO!" She was more excited now than I was when I realized what the ship was. Not just excited, terrified, almost. "Piho Kan - what is language in creole?"
"It's either Krio or Tang-"
"PIPO TANG - PIHO KAN!"
"So the language sounds similar. Maybe the Piho learned it from these guys, thought it was the divine language or something."
"No, Hoz, I think this is something much bigger than that. There were no Piho when this ship crashed. The language the Piho speak is a direct descendent of the language the stranded humans spoke - like, what you said earlier about them being stranded? 'Mi dem no go frai bak?' That's 'Mi ren n'go pre baka' in Piho. AND the Piho are SO much like earth mammals it's been used to prove Jesus is real for GOD'S SAKE DON'T YOU SEE? THE PIHO are HUMAN!"
This was too much for me. "That's insanity."
"The Piho have stories about the sky being full of "gods" just like we did. I always thought they were myths just like you thought the stories on earth were. But no! They were telling the same story, of when Earthlings could fly to space thousands of years ago! Because THEY ARE THE EARTHLINGS!"
It seemed our yelling had caught the attention of the possibly non-alien aliens. Suddenly we were surrounded by Piho, arrows in hand.
"I'll handle this." Joq began speaking in perfect Piho Kan (which I had to admit, did ring a bell to my Standard Creole). "Please understand. We are not here to pilfer. We know this is an important place to you. This was where it all began."
"Where the end began, perhaps," said one of the Piho, probably a leader of some kind. "You - you tagu, star flyers, left us here to die. All because you ruined your planet. And now you come back to us, to repeat the same mistake that left us here in the first place."
"Well back then, there was no us and you - you were all human."
"There was an us and a them the moment that Earth told us we were no longer welcome. You are lucky we did not kill every one of you on sight. We only agreed not to fight in the hopes you might come to understand"
"We didn't even know who you were."
"You forgot us. It's easier to forget your evils than to confront the reality. We never forgot. For thousands of years we have told the tale of the men in the sky who left us to rot and how we persevered (Joq told me that the phrase he used, "awa kaweha ee" means "keep your head up") and turned this world into our own. It is not yours for the taking. You already took it over, just that you became us."
"We will need to tell our leaders about this discovery. Will you come with us to prove it to them?"
"I will - on the one condition that humans leave Mundus Nova forever."
As the ships of men left Zell over the following months, the Piho gave Joq and I permission to fully document the ship and its history for our knowledge. As we left for Earth, one thought came to mind - a harrowing one. "How many other planets do you think there are like this?"
"Like?"
"Places we abandoned our brothers in the 2600s, like the Piho."
"Oh, I don't want to think about it."
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Waryur OP t1_j6m43bi wrote
Reply to comment by Unique_Name_2 in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
I'm pretty sure Ms. 35-Dollar Silvia is that post that makes people jealous lol. But I remember when "I found this Barista Express on the side of the road!" happened twice in a month, was nuts
Waryur OP t1_j6m3vrz wrote
Reply to comment by CaughtInTheCameraEye in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
I'm replacing the entire steam valve + wand setup since the newer versions of Silvia have the wand on a ball joint vs the simple rotation on the old versions. But I'll remember that if the new one leaks!
I own a JX-Pro alongside my Mazzer. Theres nothing wrong with used equipment unless the previous owner was stupid, and the previous owner of my grinder took good care of it. I'm looking to replace the grinder with a DF64, maybe DF64P, because of workflow.
I dunno if I'm at "the right" pressure - I know a guy who owns a late-90s Silvia and his OPV is still at the factory pressure, it hasn't lost pressure over time so I assume I'm also at factory pressure (11 bars or so) - but I'm putting a mod in to be able to pressure profile.
Waryur OP t1_j6m0q78 wrote
Reply to comment by jcbevns in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
Find anything neat?
Waryur OP t1_j6l33yt wrote
Reply to comment by KnifeGuy18 in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
1000? Is that in USD? They cost 865 according to a quick Google - what drove the cost up for you if that is in USD?
Waryur OP t1_j6l2yte wrote
Reply to comment by Appendizitis in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
Good catch. I think I see some! What should I do to prevent it spreading? It's only the black part that's in danger right - the silver part is stainless?
Waryur OP t1_j6l2rpm wrote
Reply to comment by eltejano in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
I have a Mazzer grinder (another BIFL item) which I also got used - but for a "reasonable" used price instead of "hungover Savers employee pressing random numbers to get 10 billion items out in a day" pricing (450 dollars).
Waryur OP t1_j6l2dzh wrote
Reply to comment by jcbevns in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
I'm actually installing that mod on this Silvia, assuming you mean Gaggiuino. Guess you could say Ranciliuino but Zero_Bit (the creator) would prefer you didn't call it anything other than the original name. Internally Silvia is pretty similar to a Gaggia; they're both simple single boiler machines with similar control schemes. The main difference is that Silvia has a bigger boiler.
Waryur OP t1_j6l24eo wrote
Reply to comment by objevt2 in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
Go on ebay and look for terms people who don't know anything about espresso call them. "Expresso maker" or "Cappuccino machine". Usually means the seller doesn't know anything about the item and is selling it for way too little.
Waryur OP t1_j6l1wvs wrote
Reply to comment by jcbevns in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
American, actually. Is savers also in Australia?
Waryur OP t1_j6l1kbw wrote
Reply to comment by Henbogle in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
That's what Savers is like too most of the time. You just have to get lucky / an employee has to have epically failed for this kind of deal.
Waryur OP t1_j6l10wl wrote
Reply to comment by ginny11 in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
Have you modded anything or is it still stock?
Waryur OP t1_j6k5htb wrote
Reply to comment by igorek_brrro in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
I posted it to r/thriftstorehauls and r/ranciliosilvia.
Also *Hoffmann. (Okay they fixed it)
Waryur OP t1_j6k3uql wrote
Reply to comment by porkchopmeowster in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
This picture is from the day i bot it. Sticker has been off since then pretty much. If it was on the side I'd have kept it as a testament to the generosity of the Goodwill Gods but on the front is too ugly.
Waryur OP t1_j6k1qp1 wrote
Reply to comment by vinnyboyescher in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
I'm doing Gaggiuino. Temperature and pressure control, repeatable automatic pressure profiles. Cool mod. I have all the parts for electronics already, just need to order the plumbing parts.
Waryur OP t1_j6j550e wrote
Reply to comment by JeffCrossSF in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
I'm gonna be doing the Gaggiuino mod which adds sensors and controllers to the heating and pressure, lets you pull consistent shots.
Waryur OP t1_j6iw9sb wrote
Reply to comment by iakrom in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
They only started making these things in the 90s I think so there's kind of a limit on how old they're gonna be. But there's basically nothing inside that can go wrong, as long as you aren't stupid.
Edit: from what I can tell, this model was introduced in 1997.
And just saying, every 50 year old appliance was once a 20 year old appliance and 20 years is a LONG life for a consumer appliance these days. We've gone through multiple fridges while this machine has been going making coffees.
Waryur OP t1_j6iw1ax wrote
Reply to comment by PrestigeMaster in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
Yeah, the valve that opens the steam wand most likely. This replaces the valve and adds the newer steam wand (because they changed some of the fittings, I would have had to replace the valve anyway, even if mine wasn't leaky.)
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Waryur OP t1_j6h8b7k wrote
Reply to comment by TheXperior in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur
I'm probably gonna replace the milk frother because the arm is a bit drippy even when closed - not enough to cause problems when coffee making and maybe that's just how they are new - also the newer versions you can move it more. Also im gonna throw a bunch of electronics in it to make it more capable - Gaggiuino mod. Basically, my plans for the machine are, new steam arm, insulate the boiler, Gaggiuino. No purely cosmetic stuff like replacing the steam knob or the drip cover because thats how you can tell it's an old one and it's BIFL material.
Waryur OP t1_ja656kl wrote
Reply to comment by DragonLordAcar in [WP] It is the beginning of the Age of Spacefare, and humans have made contact with alien life. But the humans don't realize, it's actually the beginning of the - Second - Age of Spacefare, they've been to this world before, and the aliens remember them. by Waryur
I could justify it as humans are stupid or .... I'm not a great writer. Good catch!