So here’s the thing. It sounds good with the bass slider at 50%, but anything more than that and it gets muddy real fast.

I can give it a shot! Brb

Couldn't have said it better myself. If I want to be transported back to an EDM concert I can't think of a single better thing

I can only speak anecdotally, but I'd say no,

The music isn't exponentially louder to get this bass. It's literally a vibration motor in the headphones that does a damn good job at feeling real.

So while you get the vibration and "bass" feeling of sitting next to a subwoofer or in a loud car, the sound won't blow out your eardrums.

With that said, you are more likely to listen louder if you're digging the music with these things so there is that!

I have! The xm4’s have better build quality, audio, noise cancelling, and comfortability. The crushers have bone shaking bass, and are almost decent enough for day to day use when the bass slider is toggled all the way down.

Plasticy construction and not a daily driver. But purpose built bass cannons that are the closest I've ever felt to a real subwoofer