I’m so glad I’m not the only one who saw it

Do the right decisions count if others don’t go along with them? I’m going with that one if so, because I keep making the right decisions - especially with work - and extremely incompetent people keep ruining it.

No one actually eats that stuff in space, though - too many crumbs! However, its one of their most famous and effective souvenirs and it’s inextricably tied to space by association…

You might wanna update yourself on what they’re actually doing.

If they’re not yours, why defend them? This isn’t just some case of misunderstanding or disagreement on policy, like whether we should tax cigarettes or have more carpool lanes.

This is a mainstream political party operating under the “conservatism” umbrella openly calling to have children molested as they make repeated, organized efforts to marginalize minorities and suppress dissent while platforming known white supremacists and far-right leaders.

It appears that, after massive outcry, the portion I was talking about was dropped.

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/2022/12/06/ohio-republican-senate-removes-genital-check-requirement-from-transgender-athlete-bill/69703296007/

Your party still proposed it, though.

The only people telling me this isn’t a worry are the same people actively forming militias and joining up behind a despotic potential leader.

They’re making endless rules trying to criminalize LGBT people, attempting to force certain demographics to wear or possess special identification… oh yeah, and a few years ago were actively forcing immigrant families into concentration camps, forcibly sterilizing several of them, and stealing their children just to be cruel.

They already execute thousands of citizens a year in the streets - charged with no crime most of the time, and there’s usually a racial element too. The people who do the killing are directly descended from the people who enforced slavery.

You’re not gonna be able to convince anyone “don’t believe your lying eyes”, we know what we’re seeing, we know what we are hearing. Yes, there’s a fucking danger brewing here. It needs stopped.

Then you weren’t following the hearings…

Either way, the fact that you’re defending this trash AT ALL means you mostly believe in it.

I would never let some random school doctor - who would be selected for this “exam” - to give my kid a physical - especially after what we know about the sorts of people who rush to take those positions.

Exactly what sort of individual do you think would want the job of “examining” a bunch of 11 or 12 year old athletes’ genitals? Ah yea I’m sure they’re just in it for the medical legitimacy of it all, especially seeing as the right wingers who made this policy can’t seem to keep their fingers or dicks out of kids at church or scouts.

…so they’d have to be molested by a “doctor.”

It’s okay if this person finger rapes your 11 year old as long as they’re an MD?

Yeah that’s always the argument they make at us right before, and then right after they commit violence at us.

The last time we had a bunch of right wing extremists numbering in the millions and pledging violence against entire demographics of people, it quickly became a problem for the rest of the world.

Not only is it ok, it is sometimes NECESSARY to violently resist if one wants to keep their lives and protect themselves.

When’s the last time “us people” tried to make it illegal to discuss how black people are treated differently, all while simultaneously arguing about “first amendment rights” to say the N word?

When’s the last time anyone on the left made such a huge deal about targeting trans people? The republicans have made dozens of bills targeting trans kids and adults, even trying to rope drag queens in just to get an extra stab at queer people. You can’t even tell people you’re gay in Florida without risking your job, especially if you’re a teacher. What kind of “liberty” is that?

When’s the last time the left tried to overthrow the government and install an authoritarian fascist leader who immediately planned to implement martial law? how many politicians have they tried to kidnap? I know you’ll probably make some racist comment about BLM - no, that absolutely isn’t the same thing and you know it.

The left isn’t making their entire game “fuck these people, those people, and those other people.” That’s the republicans/right wingers/conservatives. Their only platform is hate and grift. You literally can’t name a policy they have that would help America, because they haven’t got one - they’re a bunch of fascists supported by foreign interests, and if you support them then you’re just as bad as they are.

“Nobody was ever suggesting”

Ok dude, yes. They explicitly were. Ohio tried to pass it, several other states were too. They said it was about “fairness in sports” and the rule would be that if your kid wanted to play sports, your kid would have to be “digitally examined” (as in finger not computer) by a “doctor” selected by the coaches.

This is where the republicans are at today.

Nothing I said was hyperbole.

It’s not straw-manning - the vast majority of modern conservatives behave and believe exactly as I described, or worse. It’s an entire political movement based around antisocial and hateful tendencies, and I’m describing it exactly how it is. How is that straw-manning?

You mean like Ron DeSantis is doing to drag queens or trans people?

No evidence except their literal public policy and statements.

How about we turn this around - can you name one thing Republicans have done in the last 20 years to promote “individual liberty” or “small government”?

Of course I could, but the fact is you’re not asking because you actually want a source. You know damn well this is your ideology, you’re proud of it but you know you can’t be public about it. I’ve read what y’all say when you don’t think anyone on the outside is listening. You know your ideology is abhorrent, you know it calls for the elimination of “undesirables” and the implementation of an authoritarian regime. I’m not here for gotcha quotes or to play your stupid games, I’m here to support the side that’s gonna stop you.

They don’t support smaller government or individual liberty, that’s absolute nonsense and you know it.

What kind of “individual liberty” does one have if they’re being forced to give birth for someone else’s religious reasons, or as an adolescent athlete, be subject to mandatory molestation to “make sure they’re not trans”?

What kind of small government devotes funds to going after drag shows when the country is spiraling into recession from their “non-intervention” healthcare policies during a pandemic - which included literally stealing medical supplies from healthcare providers and then ransoming them back to the market for profit?

You’ve fashioned an entire policy wing around going after anti-racism, whether it be frothing up the fanbase with stoked fears about “CRT” or rabid dismissal of anything “woke” - a term that essentially means “aware of racism and injustice.” You couldn’t be more obvious about your intentions if y’all came out and screamed the N word in public, although many republican argue suspiciously hard to have the “1st amendment right” to do specifically this and not much else.

The only places where the Republicans and their fanbase aren’t trying to marginalize or straight up eliminate someone (whether it be the poor, the gays, trans people, the educated, black people, Hispanics, Jewish people, Asians) is when they’re trying to corruptly funnel even more money into the pockets of the ultra rich.

We hear “I want to oppress and/or kill all the gays/nonwhites/trans people/educators” because that’s what y’all SAY, over and over again. You seem upset that people finally listened.

They pretty much come out and say who they are directly.

For my own safety, I’m going to believe them.

No it’s not, that’s a bullshit argument - and it definitely doesn’t cover being intolerant of an ideology whose entire principle is oppressing or eliminating anyone who doesn’t fit a specific set of traits.

Oh, you misunderstood - they never planned on being even slightly tolerant of anything or anyone, the plan was to force us to tolerate their regressive bullshit!

I’ve felt for a long time that this whole “liberal tolerance” thing was just a psyop by the right to keep the left and center from fighting back - replacing them both with the most ineffective, wishy-washy form of liberalism a person could find and telling them “you’re just as bad as the people attacking you if you fight back.”

At this point, violent intolerance of conservative views is merely self-defense.

This isn’t a question of philosophical differences, it’s a question of “do we allow a bunch of walking hate crimes to legitimize themselves and their discourse in the first place?” The answer is no, fuck every one of them.

My response to this argument from conservatives is that I never said I was tolerant in the first place.

I’m not tolerant when it comes to them. Not a bit. Between their rampant, multilayered bigotry against black people, foreigners, gays, or trans folk, and their militant devotion to forcing anti-intellectualism down everyone’s throat in the form of religion or pseudoscientific grift, I see no reason to tolerate them at all. Besides, their authoritarian ideology openly exclaims the need for my elimination, so fuck ‘em all as far as I’m concerned!

It should be rendered painful to continue along with such a mindset, and such a “philosophy” (if you’d call it that) should be greatly discouraged at all costs.

do you have games on your phone?

I refuse to acknowledge it being “standard.”