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Discussions. Discourse. That’s why i politely asked your opinion. Why escalate to argument?

A long time ago? What is a long time? This guy died in the 1970s, by your logic shouldn't time erase that meaning?

The erection of these confederate monuments peaked in the 1950s as a response to the civil rights movement. Not after the war. The people who put them up are the daughters of the confederacy and they are still VERY (20k active members and a facebook group.) They are switching tactics and going after school boards now.

I am not aware of any large concerted effort to 'phase these out' can you enlighten me on this further?

I'm confused as to your stance. Does time erase meaning or should the confederate statues and the street name be removed? What is your opinion?

thats def messed up

I'm not even disagreeing with you on this one.

I'm not a fan of Hebrew Israelites, NOI etc.

They are still a community. Hate to say it but they did a lot of good things for their own as well.

I don't like the naming. I don't like the NOI. but these are fairly elected people naming things with what I assume to be community support. He is from that area it makes sense for them that the most prominent figures from THAT neighborhood be remembered.

I never suggested eye-for-an-eye ... really interesting that your mind took you there.

But lets be honest how is this any different than a confederate flag. Which is arguably more extreme!

This is selective outrage. A different set of moral standards for black people.

As far as I know Elijah never took over any countries or tortured thousands of people right? Please correct me if i am wrong.

As a nyer we live amongst many cults include the falon gong who we let go on with their shen yun performances in peace...

thanks for the clarification. Words matter.

Yeah, I think although it sucks it's totally legal here to be racist.

Renaming streets I don't think is a major city priority except for the neighborhoods they happen in. I live in an area of NYC fighting to keep it's ethnic name, (we will most likely lose) but i wouldn't consider that newsworthy fodder for anyone outside my zipcode..

I care about the real material conditions of NYers and leaving space for every community to set up their own cultural milestones.

Would we rename chambers street? Should we rename the stock market. Whos racism gets to stay and whos is intolerable?

If the issue is "named after a racist person" its a drop in the east river.

I have clearly illustrated why Columbus crimes/myth goes way beyond racism.

I guess words aren't your strong suit?

Nothing wrong with people who have mental illness as I am not an ableist.
But which part made you diagnose me across the internet?

Although I do not agree with any anti-semiticsm.... I'm a descendant of those tortured by Columbus only to come to America and have a whole Columbus Day and be forcefully taught lies about him and my family as routine schooling (He never even came to America he just raped manatees and children in the Caribbean.

So between this and the thousands of TRAITOR CONFEDERATE STATUES there is no moral track record with naming anything here. This is a daily assault for most marginalized people.

Very new York answer but im still confused

What does that mean I’m curious