you mean since 2020? there has been covid and stuff you know.....

i counter with IASIP

I mean you can't deny that it's far more prevalent in western media than it is in the real world.

I’m not dismissing it, I’m saying it doesn’t justify murder.

Murder trumps all that bullshit you just spewed.

Sure it does.

Because sperm on its own is not viable.

Not if the "treatment" is murdering someone else.

This is not a men vs women thing, this is about the rights of the unborn child.

Yeah i've had that eugenics discussion with people before. It's crazy what people find acceptable after dehumanising the victim.

People can deal with the consequences of their own actions, i didnt make them go out and get pregnant. Just because a homeless dude has no money doesn't mean it's ok to kill them. Frankly though i'm fine with halving the military budget and using that budget instead for better social services for children. Bodily rights is just made up bullshit.

Mate they’re never going to limit abortions to just the first few weeks which is the only period you could legitimately call it a clump of cells. This sort of stuff always pushed later and later meanwhile actual fetal viability gets earlier and earlier as medical tech improves. As for legal classifications that’s a bad faith argument, there’s always stuff you can do at some ages and not others. Why can 18 year olds vote and buy guns but not drink alcohol etc. it’s not a proof of anything.

if you call a baby a fetus and a murder an abortion, suddenly it becomes all good with you.

Murder is not a right.