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gdetter t1_jd7426t wrote

I used to watch BTAS as a teen in the 90s. I don't remember it being on Sat morning cartoons in our network area though, as others noted. I'm pretty sure it was on mid- to late-week, but this was 30+ years ago. So, memory being what it is, take it with a grain of salt.

I believe it was on what was the WB network at the time, as I think The Animiacs was on the same channel around the same time as Pinky and the Brain. I'm fairly certain the line-up was The Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, (or flip the previous two shows) and BTAS... because the WB did this phenomenal transition with their WB water tower and theme music into the BTAS intro music/scenes, which resonated with me for some reason.

Even at 47(m), I can still see it in my mind's eye and hear the first five bars, (pardon me if not the right musical term)... maybe a French or some other horn instrument... of the BTAS' very-orchestral intro as animators faded from the WB tower, which went from cheery "Animaniac" colors and music, to a much darker color palette and feel, into the BTAS theme song.

The approach mentally prepared viewers for the shift from fun and cheery -- I almost added "mindless," but, in retrospect, neither The Animiacs nor Pinky and the Brain (while mired in slapstick and 'Narfs') were truly mindless shows (the layers the shows offered, many of which I appreciated as an older teen vs. what a much younger viewer might understand) were phenomenal -- to the much more serious feel/nature of the show (BTAS) to come. I only now truly appreciate this in hindsight... superbly executed.

All that to say, while BTAS was pure gold the whole way around -- I haven't seen it since the 90s, but remember it, and especially Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy, fondly... sorry, remember I was a teen boy at the time... not sorry) -- the episode that resonated with me most, even now, is the one where an android version of Batman was created. I had to look this up online... episode 62, "His Silicon Soul." Original air date, November 20, 1992. I was 16 at the time.

I can still "see" the android Batman throw the real Batman into the Batcave's chasm (to Batman's supposed demise) and hear "him" say, facial expressions and voice wracked with pain, grief, and disbelief at the realization of what "he" just did, in a manner that even I could feel to my core at the time as a self-absorbed teen, something along the lines of, "I've taken a man's life."

The voice work. The anguish communicated in those lines made me feel awful for the android. It was like the floor dropped from under my feet. Not an exaggeration... even if for a brief moment, it was a very strange feeling for me at the time. The moment was so impactful, I can remember looking out our sliding glass window after the credits, struck by what I just experienced, trying to process it, and seeing the gray, overcast sky and red- and yellow-toned fall leaves, pasted by a recent rainfall on our Central PA deck. For a 16 year old, that's saying something.

The viewer sees... only after the android sacrifices itself, essentially commiting suicide because it couldn't come to terms with having killed a man (something the BTAS version of Batman would never do)... Batman climb up from the chasm. The discussion that Alfred and Bruce have when Batman reaches the top -- the android having just sacrificed itself/committed suicide -- about the android having a soul... hit me hard for some reason. It was philosophically deep, especially for a teen boy... and for an animated series.

The storyline re-read resulting from the air date research resonated with me and brought it home. I remember thinking, no feeling, that the android believed it/he (the viewer can't help but come to think of it as more man than machine at that point, especially with how writers masterfully set up the storyline) WAS the Batman. Creators, and the fantastic voicework, made you feel the android's belief, which made its grief, and the eventual suicide, so much more meaningful. Amazing.

And, just as Kevin Conroy will, at least in my mind's eye/ear, always be the voice of the Batman, Mark Hamill's fantastic voicework will forever hold a place as the quintessential Joker.

Man, I need to watch this series again.

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gdetter t1_jabipqt wrote

OP, these bozos put you and anyone who walked into that room in danger. 2x4s, stacked drywall remnants, and cuts of 1-by that look like they were pulled out of a dumpster, used (basically) as pseudo furring strips/spacers!? And the "frame" they built around the ceiling perimeter (assuming they did that)... when drywall was hung on it, would cover the window trim at the top. Who does that?

While covering the ceiling will work, a better option is to take it all down to the joists and redo it the right way... or, to save time and money, take a metal spackling knife, "knock down" the popcorn texture on the ceiling, spackle divots/holes, sand, prime and paint (assuming you don't have lead paint). If you do, that's a whole other safety issue.

Man, I pray they didn't hang full span 4x8 drywall to those boards. From the look of the pic (it's hard to discern) I don't see screw holes anywhere but in the inadequately-spaced boards and in some parts of the ceiling near those boards. The drywall board weight and lack of properly-spanned support would've caused the boards to sag, buckle, and drop in no time... which seems to be what happened. I'm also surprised (or maybe not really) that there aren't any drywall screws/nails still clinging in the 2-bys, etc., due to pull-through. If they hung full-span drywall (depending on the board thickness) someone was apt to get knocked out -- or worse -- when those boards fell from ceiling height with anyone in the immediate area.

OP, sorry to say, you've been duped, scammed, hornswoggled -- intentionally or otherwise. There are nice people, with good reviews in one area of expertise, who think they know what they're doing in another because they likely watched pros, who make a craft "look" so easy. It's years of practice that get pros to where they are. You pay for that honed skill set. Any knucklehead can go to a box store and pick up drywall boards, screws, tape, and compound. Nice (or not), well-reviewed (or not) these designer/"installers" were negligent in every sense of the word -- and were severely out of their depth here.

Get your money back. You have the pics of their shoddy "craftsmanship." Threaten a lawsuit if they refuse to reimburse you the full amount, because now you'll have to pay someone to undo what they did just to fix it the right way.

After getting your money back, hire a licensed and insured contractor who knows what they are doing and has references that can speak to past success with the same type of work you need done... not another interior designer.

Based on the pic, I wouldn't even trust these folks to hang a ceiling lamp, let alone amend a ceiling.

Good luck, truly.

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