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ghloperr t1_j8f2bkt wrote

I get what you are saying, we all had high school English classes (you also use way too many words to make your point so I bet you might have even had an AP class or two), but it is incredibly stupid of you to think that the author of the article is saying that the regular citizens of Ohio "helped make" this disaster. Nobody would ever imply such a thing because it makes no sense.

Half of the article is literally just talking about how the current situation is similar to the plot of the movie.

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ghloperr t1_j8esja4 wrote

By "the plot of a movie they helped to make" the article is talking about a real movie that real people from Ohio acted as extras in. Not that they metaphorically "helped" create the actual accident. I don't think anyone is blaming Ohio voters for the fact that national regulators sided with railroad lobbyists.

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ghloperr t1_j65c9ze wrote

They probably carbon dated the wood or other materials used with the obsidian. Can't carbon date obsidian because no carbon.

edit: https://phys.org/news/2023-01-obsidian-handaxe-making-workshop-million-years.html

> Dating of the material around the axes showed them to be from approximately 1.2 million years ago.

edit edit: apparently there is a method for dating obsidian artifacts, but I don't think it's what they used here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsidian_hydration_dating

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ghloperr t1_j53co08 wrote

My definition of a large school is 2000+ which is common for high schools in my area. Elementary schools usually have ~500 and middle schools have 1000+.

A school of approx 1000 students, whatever you want to call it (big or average), is what I was basing my estimates off of.

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ghloperr t1_j53236w wrote

You're hating on child safety features in cars for no logical reason other than "technology and internet bad" and somehow I'm the dogmatic one.

You have no argument and, again, are using personal attacks and calling me a christian evangelical (???) instead of actually defending your position. Your argument being that evangelicals also base their arguments around child safety so I'm like them? Hitler didn't like smoking, does that mean that people who are anti smoking are nazis?

I'm not a troll, I was trying to see if you had any empathy for dead toddlers but I guess not.

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ghloperr t1_j52yjtg wrote

Yeah see there are small sized schools, medium sized schools, and large schools. An AVERAGE means a typical building size. This school has 1000 students which is not big or small, it's an AVERAGE sized school.

I have done full electrical and low voltage design for schools, hospitals, businesses, apartments, etc. You don't know shit lol

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ghloperr t1_j52x4ph wrote

https://www.rearviewsafety.com/safety/news/vehicle-safety-statistics-backovers

17,000 injuries and 200 deaths a year, and half of those are children. You literally cannot see a child in the review of a large truck, SUV, or crossover. It doesn't matter how observant you are. Really disheartening to see people so callously dismiss the deaths of over 100 children a year.

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ghloperr t1_j52wl8k wrote

How many lighting circuits do you think an average sized building needs? Obviously not just one, but if they are using LED and HE fluorescent it shouldn't be more than a few especially if they are 277V. And they should all be at the same panel anyway.

If the lighting designer was a complete idiot and put 10 different circuits in 10 different panels that might be an issue, but most designers aren't that dumb.

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ghloperr t1_j52u43p wrote

Ok I have to stand up for the designers and engineers of the world. Schools are public jobs and therefore go to the low bidder in most cases. Low bid contractors can sometimes be nice, but many of them are the scummiest, most untrustworthy, cheapest people on the planet. I have been screwed on school projects plenty of times because a contractor did work that wasn't on the drawings without permission or talked the client into changing my design because it would "save money". We had to have twice as many notes and details on school jobs than other facilities because the contractors were such weasels and would use any excuse in the book to dream up change orders.

And this isn't even getting into contractors not bringing up design issues during pre-bid RFIs, purposefully screwing over the entire construction team because they know they can get a fat change order. Yes, sometimes engineers make mistakes. But when the contractor doesn't act like a team player and screws over everyone else to make some extra cash it's a sign of a lack of ethics and professionalism. We are all just trying to get the job done and do the best we can for the client.

edit: And if this truly is a fully automated system, this is a simple programming issue. Which is done by the contractor, not the engineer. I guarantee the engineer did not write in the specs or their lighting sequence of operations that the lights have to stay on all night.

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